Comments on: Neighbors hear homeless shelter plans

By: manuelaragon

manuelaragon — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 05:09:55 +0000

Hi! I'm a born christian and just moved to seattle a couple of weeks ago. I am homeless and I am looking for decent shelter while a get on my feets. I stayed in the Gospel mission down town Seattle but they have a lots of bugs, because they provide shower and cuts for the dogs in the neigborhood and is the same spot we sleep. thats not a apropiate for nobody, if you can help me some how, with information or even a job. I am construction painter and I do small repairs in the house, clean yards. thank you and God Bless you (323)289-4435 cell

By: Bum Crisis '09

Bum Crisis '09 — Wed, 27 May 2009 20:38:22 +0000

So Ballard is hosting a bum convention?

By: OingoBoingo

OingoBoingo — Sun, 24 May 2009 18:36:33 +0000

Shane
I was there, late. I spoke to one parishioner, also late, about my concerns regarding accountability, impact on the neighborhood, etc. He listened. I also pointed out how many cars were in the parking lot and wondered aloud how many of them still live around here. I told him that I walked to both ORs and Calvary and noted he didn't. Didn't change anything.

By: Laughing

Laughing — Sun, 24 May 2009 05:21:00 +0000

What did you expect Shane?

By: Shane Dillon

Shane Dillon — Sat, 23 May 2009 09:00:18 +0000

Several weeks ago as soon as the 'vote' was mentioned, I offered to arrange for media coverage, and stand outside the church with a table for anyone to vote, or even get banners made. I posted my name, and email address if anyone wanted to be involved.

I did not get on email back. That really surprised me.

And when I asked why on the forum, several of you said you didn't want to give your name and get involved.

If some of you would have stood outside the church on the night of the vote, perhaps it would not have got the go-ahead.

By: chopper_74

chopper_74 — Sat, 23 May 2009 05:50:38 +0000

wow…ok I get it.
iggy screwy…

By: screwtape

screwtape — Sat, 23 May 2009 03:53:48 +0000

MR Chopper –
What are you talking about?
You seem to have comprehension difficulty.
Do you think that you are replying to another thread?
Are you saying that Leo Rhodes is a sex offender?
Are you just trying to be obtuse?

By: chopper_74

chopper_74 — Sat, 23 May 2009 02:41:09 +0000

Frantic Freddie 1 day ago
Yes, like Leo Rhodes, SHARE member, leader and homeless for 20 years. Apparently still looking for his bootstraps.

By: sCreWtApe

sCreWtApe — Sat, 23 May 2009 02:32:42 +0000

If you can't see the simple distinctions between personal responsiblity and the responsibilities of social service programs it does say something about you, if not stupid, then willfully ignorant might be more appropriate. You can choose not to understand if you wish – despite all evidence of how the world works – - it is no skin off my back.
How is this clearly an example of enabling?

By: dollars to donuts

dollars to donuts — Sat, 23 May 2009 02:15:17 +0000

It is more of a comment on the quality of the food as the quantity. What always seems to be in abundance is day old pastries, breads, pastas and crackers. Soup kitchens serve hearty pasta/cheese conglomerations designed to fill one up for a long day in the cold . There is little fresh fruits or vegetables
And true, it can be hard to go hungry in this city.

By: kim

kim — Sat, 23 May 2009 01:10:15 +0000

who said they have to be christians or would have to convert?

By: chopper_74

chopper_74 — Fri, 22 May 2009 22:59:19 +0000

Accepting religion, especially when it is the source of the compassion that they would benefit by, to honor the giver, to make of yourself what you can, is totally acceptable, and completely expected in my book.
SHARE is flawed by ignoring that premise, by ignoring it's importance, and by ignoring the safety concerns of this community, etc.
Religion isn't the bad guy, how it is being misused is the issue.

By: chopper_74

chopper_74 — Fri, 22 May 2009 22:51:11 +0000

If it wasn't for SHARE, they'd have to make better choices. Thanks to SHARE, their choices never have to improve.
It's quite the accomplishment to be the biggest, most irresponsible organization involved with the homeless of Seattle…

By: chopper_74

chopper_74 — Fri, 22 May 2009 22:40:40 +0000

Dear Mr. Screwtape,
If you don't see it as we do, sorry, but that doesn't mean that we are stupid.
This is clearly just another example of enabling, the sex offender issue is just one layer of the whole stinking onion.

By: mickey

mickey — Fri, 22 May 2009 22:15:54 +0000

News flash: Not everyone is Christian (or wants to convert to being Christian). Forcing religion on people who need shelter is not the answer — getting the shelter provider to work with the community is.

By: Bum Crisis '09

Bum Crisis '09 — Fri, 22 May 2009 20:02:03 +0000

Interesting, Jenny Craig for the homeless?
I was driving near the courthouse last night and saw a line of people for the outdoor soup kitchen. I'd guess over 150 folks in line around dinner time. Looked like the Bush depression of 2009.

By: Barfly

Barfly — Fri, 22 May 2009 20:00:08 +0000

Yeah we could but after few years we'd still have the bomber. The bums? They'd be back on the streets in a month.

By: bleedingheart

bleedingheart — Fri, 22 May 2009 19:38:25 +0000

When Our Redeemers hosted a tent city in their parking lot on 85th, I think they had rules prohibiting substance abuse on tent city grounds. So what happened? There was a marked increase in drinking and drug use in nearby woods. There was also an increase in loitering and littering in areas near the tent city. I wanted to be welcoming to homeless solutions in my neighborhood, but can't say I would welcome this particular “solution” again.

By: Fauxnothing

Fauxnothing — Fri, 22 May 2009 19:36:37 +0000

Overheard an interesting conversation on the bus yesterday after work. The people talking were a few seats behind me, but their voices were loud. One of the men told the other that a friend of his was really glad not to be living on the street any longer. This friend had gained a lot of weight during the time he was homeless because of all the free food that's available in Seattle. “Oh, man, there is food everywhere! Food banks, church suppers, soup kitchens! It's quite the day when a guy lives on the street and gains weight, and has to get off the street to lose it!”

By: Wheatbreadisgood

Wheatbreadisgood — Fri, 22 May 2009 19:32:37 +0000

We are sick of you too…..Why don't you join Leo.

By: pj

pj — Fri, 22 May 2009 10:52:11 +0000

Wow! Have you ever even been to a church service at Our Redeemer's? (Note: this is not the Calvary location…Our Redeemer's is on 85th) They are filled to the brim and then some!! Where in the heck do you get your information? There's no grinding halt there! Maybe you should try a little kindness or whatever and go from piece of mind to peace of mind….

By: Underpants_Gnome

Underpants_Gnome — Fri, 22 May 2009 09:31:54 +0000

What bothers me most about this shelter is that it will bring 20 ADDITIONAL homeless men to Ballard every night. We already have more than enough. If Our Redeemers wants to “minister to the homeless”, why can't they gather 20 homeless from the existing ranks and lock them up at Cavalry every night. At least that would really be getting 20 homeless off the streets of Ballard.

By: Luke42

Luke42 — Fri, 22 May 2009 08:18:06 +0000

Strike, I hope we don't have to call on your services. SHARE has played Pastor Steve like a cheap fiddle. Steve, unable to accept a scenario where he looks bad, keeps forging ahead, neighbors be damned.

When someone is injured by the situation at the unmonitored vacant building at 23rd and 70th, Our Redeemer's and the Lutheran Church will pay a heavy price.

Money is only part of it. The greater loss will be a community that can no longer trust Our Redeemer's leadership to do the right thing.

The right thing, IMHO, is to send SHARE packing and expand Our Redeemer's other missions into the building at 23rd & 70th. Why not a Sunday service, Boy Scouts or other activities that provide real meaning to the community?

By: Whitebreadsucks

Whitebreadsucks — Fri, 22 May 2009 07:09:43 +0000

Sorry Honey but you don t have much say there LOL
You might have a stake in the neighborhood but no one cares about you. And reality check, they are moving in LOLOLOL

By: Whitebreadsucks

Whitebreadsucks — Fri, 22 May 2009 06:57:31 +0000

SHARE is the biggest shelter provider in King County. Right there is a success story.
They provide over 500 people with a place to live
If it wasn t for SHARE where would they be staying? in the bushes by your house?

By: Whitebreadsucks

Whitebreadsucks — Fri, 22 May 2009 06:54:26 +0000

These people don t need any social services. What they need is fair wages.
So next time you go to a fast food restaurant, get your uppity white nose off you butt and tip!

By: Whitebreadsucks

Whitebreadsucks — Fri, 22 May 2009 06:50:45 +0000

OK Bellevue,
get out of here with your “tent city Solutions”
Leo Rhodes does NOT live in Seattle anymore, he is back with his tribe.
And speaking of Leo, as a Native American he has more right to this land than you do.
Just sick of White People!

By: LBB

LBB — Fri, 22 May 2009 06:40:18 +0000

http://www.familywatchdog.us/

By: xtevex

xtevex — Fri, 22 May 2009 06:01:34 +0000

“The US is one of the wealthiest nations on earth and yet we let so many people be homeless, what is there to be proud of in that?”

“Let” people be homeless? oh please. it's so damn easy to be homeless in this country because there are so many bleeding hearts that let people shuck all responsibility for the piss poor choices they make in life. Exhibit A is Leo Rhodes. Homeless for 20 years? Give me a break. I was homeless for about a month when I first moved up here 19 years ago. I worked three jobs and lived out of my car until I saved up enough cash to move into an apartment … people like Rhodes aren't down on their luck, they're asking all of us to subsidize their lifestyle. I didn't want to stay homeless, ergo I did the work necessary not to remain so. The Leo Rhodes of this world are content to sit on their asses and let pitiful saps feel guilty about them … not me.

By: Ballardmom

Ballardmom — Fri, 22 May 2009 05:09:56 +0000

Bears don't usually attack unless they are hungry and think you're food or you mess with their babies. I do worry more about gangs and drugged-out, angry teens than I do homeless people. But after the soup kitchen debacle it seems that drugged-out angry folks are a big part of the homeless population that has taken up our neighborhood as residence. I hope that the guys who are staying at the SHARE shelter are NOT from that population. If not, they may actually deter the drug dealers from the area. I did know there were a few homeless guys who tried to self-police the meal program to keep it under control, but they were out numbered. So, I'm going into this with hope that maybe something good can come out of it – even though I won't thank SHARE or Our Redeemers because they have shown themselves to be irresponsible, myopic jerks. This all could've gone down so much better for everyone. Let's hope it plays out well despite all that and all do what we can to see that it does.