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	<title>Comments on: Where the layoffs hit Ballard schools</title>
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		<title>By: jt</title>
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		<dc:creator>jt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 07:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teachers are paid for the days they work. We are unemployed in the summer.  Teachers NEVER EVER get a paid vacation....no matter how many years we teach. And we can&#039;t choose WHEN we want to go on vacation.  School districts withhold money from our monthly checks during the school year and return it to us in the summer months...that way we can&#039;t collect unemployment.   (When I first started teaching, teachers got unemployment in the summer.) &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree that teachers who aren&#039;t doing their jobs should be fired, but please, don&#039;t talk about all the days off!!!  I&#039;ve taught for 36 years and still love teaching....being an academic coach.  My husband says I have a nine month affair every year because I spend so much time at school, with kids, communicating with parents, setting up centers, etc.  And I spend oodles of money to make my classroom a comfortable, exciting place to learn.  Teaching get in the blood!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Again, I&#039;ve never had a paid vacation.  No teacher that I know of ever has had a paid vacation.  And my evenings grading papers, improving units, emailing parents, and my summers taking classes are all unpaid.  So.....please don&#039;t continue the misconception that teachers have paid holidays and vacations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teachers are paid for the days they work. We are unemployed in the summer.  Teachers NEVER EVER get a paid vacation&#8230;.no matter how many years we teach. And we can&#39;t choose WHEN we want to go on vacation.  School districts withhold money from our monthly checks during the school year and return it to us in the summer months&#8230;that way we can&#39;t collect unemployment.   (When I first started teaching, teachers got unemployment in the summer.) </p>
<p>I agree that teachers who aren&#39;t doing their jobs should be fired, but please, don&#39;t talk about all the days off!!!  I&#39;ve taught for 36 years and still love teaching&#8230;.being an academic coach.  My husband says I have a nine month affair every year because I spend so much time at school, with kids, communicating with parents, setting up centers, etc.  And I spend oodles of money to make my classroom a comfortable, exciting place to learn.  Teaching get in the blood!</p>
<p>Again, I&#39;ve never had a paid vacation.  No teacher that I know of ever has had a paid vacation.  And my evenings grading papers, improving units, emailing parents, and my summers taking classes are all unpaid.  So&#8230;..please don&#39;t continue the misconception that teachers have paid holidays and vacations.</p>
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		<title>By: howie</title>
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		<dc:creator>howie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 12:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Government is like water.  It always takes the easiest route...layoff by seniority, not ability.  Save a penny now, even if it costs a dollar tomorrow.   Waste as much as possible in order to get the same for next year.   Government is welfare for the incompetent.  A government system could never survive the private sector.  It&#039;s a great system for people who never learned to work for a living (administrators).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Government is like water.  It always takes the easiest route&#8230;layoff by seniority, not ability.  Save a penny now, even if it costs a dollar tomorrow.   Waste as much as possible in order to get the same for next year.   Government is welfare for the incompetent.  A government system could never survive the private sector.  It&#39;s a great system for people who never learned to work for a living (administrators).</p>
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		<title>By: A Teapot</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/05/22/where-the-layoffs-hit-ballard-schools/comment-page-2/#comment-2810</link>
		<dc:creator>A Teapot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 06:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>does anyone know which Whitman Middle School Teachers and counselor got fired?</description>
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		<title>By: Steve Albertson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Albertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 01:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sara Williams, Ashley Isaaksen and Jill Campbell were part of the &quot;reduction in force&quot; from West Woodland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sara Williams, Ashley Isaaksen and Jill Campbell were part of the &#8220;reduction in force&#8221; from West Woodland.</p>
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		<title>By: Barfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 09:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So basically hearsay. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Go spend actual time in a country before repeating worn out cliches and stereotypes on a blog please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So basically hearsay. </p>
<p>Go spend actual time in a country before repeating worn out cliches and stereotypes on a blog please.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 08:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Private school is the way to do my friends. =]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anway, has there been no new news in the Ballard neighborhood in the past 3 days?!?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Private school is the way to do my friends. =]</p>
<p>Anway, has there been no new news in the Ballard neighborhood in the past 3 days?!?!</p>
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		<title>By: Big Bad Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Bad Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 08:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am having a hard time digesting some of these comments. Teachers have to jump through so many hoops just to get their own class room. While many of you do not believe it is a full-time job, try teaching your little brat for 6 hours a day, then multiple that by 150 students. I hear all of the arguments that teachers should be paid on performance, not even in a perfect world would that make sense. Let&#039;s not take into account the mandates of state law, district and school policy. These downward spirals of performance start in the home with parents, like you, not holding their children accountable. If you would teach your kids, (I know foreign concept-requires unplugging electronic devices) how to respect their elders, achieve on their own, work toward a goal and be self-motivated, the educational world would be a lot simpler for all involved. No, that&#039;s too much effort on your part. You&#039;ve grown up in a society of reckless entitlement where it&#039;s always someone else&#039;s fault. Your kid is failing English? The teacher must be too blame, right?! Oh, keeping on little Stevie or queenie Kimmie took much effort on your part to get their butts in gear-blame the educator! Give me a break! If you want to start docking someone&#039;s paycheck for lack of performance, look to your own pocket!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am having a hard time digesting some of these comments. Teachers have to jump through so many hoops just to get their own class room. While many of you do not believe it is a full-time job, try teaching your little brat for 6 hours a day, then multiple that by 150 students. I hear all of the arguments that teachers should be paid on performance, not even in a perfect world would that make sense. Let&#39;s not take into account the mandates of state law, district and school policy. These downward spirals of performance start in the home with parents, like you, not holding their children accountable. If you would teach your kids, (I know foreign concept-requires unplugging electronic devices) how to respect their elders, achieve on their own, work toward a goal and be self-motivated, the educational world would be a lot simpler for all involved. No, that&#39;s too much effort on your part. You&#39;ve grown up in a society of reckless entitlement where it&#39;s always someone else&#39;s fault. Your kid is failing English? The teacher must be too blame, right?! Oh, keeping on little Stevie or queenie Kimmie took much effort on your part to get their butts in gear-blame the educator! Give me a break! If you want to start docking someone&#39;s paycheck for lack of performance, look to your own pocket!</p>
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		<title>By: fb</title>
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		<dc:creator>fb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 07:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I learned it from a young woman we befriended through the UW&#039;s FIUTs program. A person who spent got her entire education up to college in Japan. Now she&#039;s a sophomore at the U, so this info is fresh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I learned it from a young woman we befriended through the UW&#39;s FIUTs program. A person who spent got her entire education up to college in Japan. Now she&#39;s a sophomore at the U, so this info is fresh.</p>
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		<title>By: Sweet Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sweet Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 05:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It’s the same exam any kid takes so I guess all college kids cannot cut it?  If that is what your friend says then that may well be the truth but don’t say it’s Running Start kids in particular.    The high schools simply don’t have a great deal of say as to who gets accepted into Running Start.  Read the instructions for those who want to enter.  They must take the test on their own.  If they pass THEN they have to get an ok from their high school teachers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s the same exam any kid takes so I guess all college kids cannot cut it?  If that is what your friend says then that may well be the truth but don’t say it’s Running Start kids in particular.    The high schools simply don’t have a great deal of say as to who gets accepted into Running Start.  Read the instructions for those who want to enter.  They must take the test on their own.  If they pass THEN they have to get an ok from their high school teachers.</p>
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		<title>By: Sweet Rose</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/05/22/where-the-layoffs-hit-ballard-schools/comment-page-2/#comment-2807</link>
		<dc:creator>Sweet Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 05:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really?  How so?  Please give examples and be specific.</description>
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		<title>By: Tiptoes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiptoes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 05:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Managed how, exactly? You don&#039;t come a cross as a spectacularly accomplished person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Managed how, exactly? You don&#39;t come a cross as a spectacularly accomplished person.</p>
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		<title>By: Sweet Rose</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/05/22/where-the-layoffs-hit-ballard-schools/comment-page-2/#comment-2805</link>
		<dc:creator>Sweet Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 04:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t blame teachers if your kids can&#039;t learn...or won&#039;t learn.    My generation was taught primarily by a bunch of grey haired maiden ladies and we managed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#39;t blame teachers if your kids can&#39;t learn&#8230;or won&#39;t learn.    My generation was taught primarily by a bunch of grey haired maiden ladies and we managed.</p>
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		<title>By: still_reads_books</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/05/22/where-the-layoffs-hit-ballard-schools/comment-page-2/#comment-2804</link>
		<dc:creator>still_reads_books</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 01:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...an education (or a decent education, or any education for that matter)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;an education (or a decent education, or any education for that matter)</p>
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		<title>By: still_reads_books</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/05/22/where-the-layoffs-hit-ballard-schools/comment-page-2/#comment-2803</link>
		<dc:creator>still_reads_books</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 01:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the lack of basic grammar, spelling and punctuation in these blog posts says a lot about the effectiveness of our education system. This is the stuff I learned in grade school way back in the  &#039;60s.  Basic literacy among adults is becoming obsolete so if you&#039;re trying to get a education these days, you&#039;re screwed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No problem though. Go ahead and lay off our educators and dismantle our public education system. India and China are just dying to kick our butts on the world economic stage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the lack of basic grammar, spelling and punctuation in these blog posts says a lot about the effectiveness of our education system. This is the stuff I learned in grade school way back in the  &#39;60s.  Basic literacy among adults is becoming obsolete so if you&#39;re trying to get a education these days, you&#39;re screwed.</p>
<p>No problem though. Go ahead and lay off our educators and dismantle our public education system. India and China are just dying to kick our butts on the world economic stage.</p>
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		<title>By: ballardmama</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/05/22/where-the-layoffs-hit-ballard-schools/comment-page-2/#comment-2801</link>
		<dc:creator>ballardmama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 00:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She&#039;s just telling it like it is. She feels like most of the kids in her classes are not prepared to be taking college level courses. Maybe the entrance exam is unreliable? I think if anyone has the right to make such a claim it would be the person teaching them. BTW, this is at Highline CC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#39;s just telling it like it is. She feels like most of the kids in her classes are not prepared to be taking college level courses. Maybe the entrance exam is unreliable? I think if anyone has the right to make such a claim it would be the person teaching them. BTW, this is at Highline CC.</p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 20:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seattle Vocational Institute has a great Running Start program called &quot;Bright Future&quot;.  Most, but not all, kids who go into it are not on 4-year college track.  Many are behind in credits.  Through the program, 90% finish high school and about 70% complete a vocational program that helps them go on to make $12-$20 per hour right out of high school.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why aren&#039;t there more programs like that?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://sviweb.sccd.ctc.edu/p_bright.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://sviweb.sccd.ctc.edu/p_bright.htm&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seattle Vocational Institute has a great Running Start program called &#8220;Bright Future&#8221;.  Most, but not all, kids who go into it are not on 4-year college track.  Many are behind in credits.  Through the program, 90% finish high school and about 70% complete a vocational program that helps them go on to make $12-$20 per hour right out of high school.</p>
<p>Why aren&#39;t there more programs like that?</p>
<p><a href="http://sviweb.sccd.ctc.edu/p_bright.htm" rel="nofollow">http://sviweb.sccd.ctc.edu/p_bright.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sweet Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sweet Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 19:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Running start students take the exact same entrance exam taken by all entering freshman.  If they don’t pass at college level they are not accepted into the program.     I think your friend’s claims are bogus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Running start students take the exact same entrance exam taken by all entering freshman.  If they don’t pass at college level they are not accepted into the program.     I think your friend’s claims are bogus.</p>
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		<title>By: Sweet Rose</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/05/22/where-the-layoffs-hit-ballard-schools/comment-page-2/#comment-2786</link>
		<dc:creator>Sweet Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 17:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stereotypes are real. Get over it.</description>
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		<title>By: ballardmama</title>
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		<dc:creator>ballardmama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 09:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a bit off topic, but people have been mentioning Running Start, so here&#039;s my two cents. My good friend and neighbor teaches introductory writing classes at the community college level. Many of the classes she teaches are full of Running Start students. She claims that the majority of Running Start students are NOT qualified to take college level writing courses. She has to spend a huge chunk of time teaching them remedial writing skills that they shoould already have mastered before being allowed into Running Start. The high schools do very little in the way of screening these kids to make sure they are qualified to take college courses. Often the high schools are worried these kids will drop out so they steer them towards Running Start and then kids who are several grade levels behind in reading and writing are taking college level courses. NOT a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a bit off topic, but people have been mentioning Running Start, so here&#39;s my two cents. My good friend and neighbor teaches introductory writing classes at the community college level. Many of the classes she teaches are full of Running Start students. She claims that the majority of Running Start students are NOT qualified to take college level writing courses. She has to spend a huge chunk of time teaching them remedial writing skills that they shoould already have mastered before being allowed into Running Start. The high schools do very little in the way of screening these kids to make sure they are qualified to take college courses. Often the high schools are worried these kids will drop out so they steer them towards Running Start and then kids who are several grade levels behind in reading and writing are taking college level courses. NOT a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Barfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 09:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got anymore stereotypes you didn&#039;t learn from your friends at Nova? Yours are as bad as people who think American school kids are all ready to shoot their classmates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got anymore stereotypes you didn&#39;t learn from your friends at Nova? Yours are as bad as people who think American school kids are all ready to shoot their classmates.</p>
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		<title>By: SeaSpider</title>
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		<dc:creator>SeaSpider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 08:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, you&#039;re wrong. Many of the nations that outrank the USA educate all of their children - not just those who are deemed worthy. Yes, some do segregate who gets educated and who doesn&#039;t but that also happens here in the USA! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In fact some of them are far MORE equal than the USA because education is paid for almost entirely at a national level unlike the USA. Are you really naive enough to think that all students in the USA receive the same level of education? Do you really think that kids in poor neighborhoods receive the same education as kids in rich neighborhoods?? The USA is just as segregated in education as many other nations. If you doubt this compare the quality of schools between say Bellevue or Redmond and somewhere in Appalachia country or the slums of LA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, you&#39;re wrong. Many of the nations that outrank the USA educate all of their children &#8211; not just those who are deemed worthy. Yes, some do segregate who gets educated and who doesn&#39;t but that also happens here in the USA! </p>
<p>In fact some of them are far MORE equal than the USA because education is paid for almost entirely at a national level unlike the USA. Are you really naive enough to think that all students in the USA receive the same level of education? Do you really think that kids in poor neighborhoods receive the same education as kids in rich neighborhoods?? The USA is just as segregated in education as many other nations. If you doubt this compare the quality of schools between say Bellevue or Redmond and somewhere in Appalachia country or the slums of LA.</p>
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		<title>By: SeaSpider</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/05/22/where-the-layoffs-hit-ballard-schools/comment-page-2/#comment-2764</link>
		<dc:creator>SeaSpider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 07:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to know that&#039;s the case in Seattle. Where I went to HS the football coach was by far the highest paid person at the school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to know that&#39;s the case in Seattle. Where I went to HS the football coach was by far the highest paid person at the school.</p>
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		<title>By: fb</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/05/22/where-the-layoffs-hit-ballard-schools/comment-page-2/#comment-2784</link>
		<dc:creator>fb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 06:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They have a very high suicide rate. Their kids live in a pressure cooker trying to pass tests to get onto the college-prep tarck. They study 80 hours a week for these tests.Parents send little kids to special classes all day Saturdays. Their parents make them feel that they will shame the families if they don&#039;t do well in their studies. Some kids kill themselves. Then when they get past the tests, there is nothing special about high school, it&#039;s not even that hard---just competitive to get in. For higher education, they all want to come here.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They aren&#039;t taught to think independently or creatively...just to apply formulas and memorize. It&#039;s not a good system, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have a very high suicide rate. Their kids live in a pressure cooker trying to pass tests to get onto the college-prep tarck. They study 80 hours a week for these tests.Parents send little kids to special classes all day Saturdays. Their parents make them feel that they will shame the families if they don&#39;t do well in their studies. Some kids kill themselves. Then when they get past the tests, there is nothing special about high school, it&#39;s not even that hard&#8212;just competitive to get in. For higher education, they all want to come here.</p>
<p>They aren&#39;t taught to think independently or creatively&#8230;just to apply formulas and memorize. It&#39;s not a good system, either.</p>
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		<title>By: Barfly</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/05/22/where-the-layoffs-hit-ballard-schools/comment-page-2/#comment-2797</link>
		<dc:creator>Barfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 03:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Brilliant minds have come from backgrounds with no education at all.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Present company excepted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Brilliant minds have come from backgrounds with no education at all.&#8221;</p>
<p>Present company excepted.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/05/22/where-the-layoffs-hit-ballard-schools/comment-page-2/#comment-2745</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 21:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The district managed to fire 8 teachers?  I&#039;m impressed!  I thought you pretty much had to shoot the Pope before you could get fired.  My son had mostly very good to excellent teachers in the Seattle public schools, but the one bad teacher he had was doozy.  I told a neighbor about the teacher.  She forgot his name, but when she related my stories to another friend, that woman recognized the teacher from the description of his &quot;teaching&quot;, even though he taught her child eight years before - at a different school.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He was the union rep for the school, wouldn&#039;t you know.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you relied on the same cop, firefighter or doctor almost every day for a year, you&#039;d be just as critcal of a bad one.  I don&#039;t know how those professions handle it, but it&#039;s much, much easier to push a bad Seattle teacher along to another school than get them fired, so that&#039;s what happens.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I guess if teachers don&#039;t want to have their barrel spoiled by the occasional bad apple, they should change the union so that it enforces professional standards among the members.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The district managed to fire 8 teachers?  I&#39;m impressed!  I thought you pretty much had to shoot the Pope before you could get fired.  My son had mostly very good to excellent teachers in the Seattle public schools, but the one bad teacher he had was doozy.  I told a neighbor about the teacher.  She forgot his name, but when she related my stories to another friend, that woman recognized the teacher from the description of his &#8220;teaching&#8221;, even though he taught her child eight years before &#8211; at a different school.</p>
<p>He was the union rep for the school, wouldn&#39;t you know.</p>
<p>If you relied on the same cop, firefighter or doctor almost every day for a year, you&#39;d be just as critcal of a bad one.  I don&#39;t know how those professions handle it, but it&#39;s much, much easier to push a bad Seattle teacher along to another school than get them fired, so that&#39;s what happens.   </p>
<p>I guess if teachers don&#39;t want to have their barrel spoiled by the occasional bad apple, they should change the union so that it enforces professional standards among the members.</p>
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		<title>By: Sweet Rose</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/05/22/where-the-layoffs-hit-ballard-schools/comment-page-2/#comment-2783</link>
		<dc:creator>Sweet Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 21:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like living in a giant corporation.  Not my cup of tea thanks anyway.    I think their lives only SEEM longer because they are such a bore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like living in a giant corporation.  Not my cup of tea thanks anyway.    I think their lives only SEEM longer because they are such a bore.</p>
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		<title>By: Sweet Rose</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/05/22/where-the-layoffs-hit-ballard-schools/comment-page-2/#comment-2796</link>
		<dc:creator>Sweet Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 21:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But your point makes no sense  because if we had public healthcare then Joe would not get better healthcare  than Sally. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; Your kid will get the education he or she wants.   All a private school does is isolate.  It offers no better educational opportunities.    Brilliant minds have come from backgrounds with no education at all.   The only thing hard about Harvard is paying the tuition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But your point makes no sense  because if we had public healthcare then Joe would not get better healthcare  than Sally. </p>
<p> Your kid will get the education he or she wants.   All a private school does is isolate.  It offers no better educational opportunities.    Brilliant minds have come from backgrounds with no education at all.   The only thing hard about Harvard is paying the tuition.</p>
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		<title>By: Barfly</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/05/22/where-the-layoffs-hit-ballard-schools/comment-page-2/#comment-2782</link>
		<dc:creator>Barfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 21:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, horrifying: low crime rates, clean safe streets, well educated work force, longest life expectancy in the world, healthy diet, low divorce rate. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What a nightmare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, horrifying: low crime rates, clean safe streets, well educated work force, longest life expectancy in the world, healthy diet, low divorce rate. </p>
<p>What a nightmare.</p>
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		<title>By: Noobs</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/05/22/where-the-layoffs-hit-ballard-schools/comment-page-2/#comment-2795</link>
		<dc:creator>Noobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 20:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, life is not fair.&lt;br&gt;You shouldn&#039;t have a kid you can&#039;t afford.&lt;br&gt;Life is not fair.&lt;br&gt;You have a kid and have to send it to a less then desirable public institution.&lt;br&gt;Sorry, life is not fair.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The point that I was trying to make, was that we all pay the same taxes, it shouldn&#039;t be a pick and choose service. That is like saying if we had to have public health care and Joe got better care then Sally but they both paid the same amount into it. That wouldn&#039;t fly. Why is this any different?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, life is not fair.<br />You shouldn&#39;t have a kid you can&#39;t afford.<br />Life is not fair.<br />You have a kid and have to send it to a less then desirable public institution.<br />Sorry, life is not fair.</p>
<p>The point that I was trying to make, was that we all pay the same taxes, it shouldn&#39;t be a pick and choose service. That is like saying if we had to have public health care and Joe got better care then Sally but they both paid the same amount into it. That wouldn&#39;t fly. Why is this any different?</p>
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		<title>By: Sweet Rose</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/05/22/where-the-layoffs-hit-ballard-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-2781</link>
		<dc:creator>Sweet Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 17:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can’t imagine wanting to live in a society like that of the  Japanese.  Horrifying!   To each his own I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can’t imagine wanting to live in a society like that of the  Japanese.  Horrifying!   To each his own I guess.</p>
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