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	<title>Comments on: Bike lane changes proposed for Ballard Bridge</title>
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		<title>By: squintstopher</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/07/30/bike-lane-changes-on-ballard-bridge/comment-page-2/#comment-13000</link>
		<dc:creator>squintstopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 03:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would it take to get a new pedestrian bridge across the canal? Could it be cheaper than doing a major retrofit on the Ballard Bridge? There are plenty of precedents for well-designed pedestrian drawbridges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would it take to get a new pedestrian bridge across the canal? Could it be cheaper than doing a major retrofit on the Ballard Bridge? There are plenty of precedents for well-designed pedestrian drawbridges.</p>
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		<title>By: bbb1</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/07/30/bike-lane-changes-on-ballard-bridge/comment-page-2/#comment-12962</link>
		<dc:creator>bbb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 09:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I&#039;m not. You&#039;re saying bicyclists should walk their bikes on the sidewalk, not ride their bikes?? Yes?No?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I&#39;m not. You&#39;re saying bicyclists should walk their bikes on the sidewalk, not ride their bikes?? Yes?No?</p>
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		<title>By: Ballard_Curmudgeon</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/07/30/bike-lane-changes-on-ballard-bridge/comment-page-2/#comment-12961</link>
		<dc:creator>Ballard_Curmudgeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 06:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now you&#039;re just yanking my chain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now you&#39;re just yanking my chain.</p>
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		<title>By: bbb1</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/07/30/bike-lane-changes-on-ballard-bridge/comment-page-2/#comment-12960</link>
		<dc:creator>bbb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 05:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean walk my bike across the bridge, using the sidewalk? Or the roadway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean walk my bike across the bridge, using the sidewalk? Or the roadway?</p>
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		<title>By: eric</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/07/30/bike-lane-changes-on-ballard-bridge/comment-page-2/#comment-12993</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 04:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, my day too - but thats why this will work; i&#039;m all about putting a couple hundred into it so its done with quaility supplies!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, my day too &#8211; but thats why this will work; i&#39;m all about putting a couple hundred into it so its done with quaility supplies!</p>
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		<title>By: Freddie</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/07/30/bike-lane-changes-on-ballard-bridge/comment-page-2/#comment-12980</link>
		<dc:creator>Freddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 03:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait until there&#039;s a break and you can cross safely. What&#039;s so complicated about that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait until there&#39;s a break and you can cross safely. What&#39;s so complicated about that?</p>
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		<title>By: stopthebuzz</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/07/30/bike-lane-changes-on-ballard-bridge/comment-page-2/#comment-12992</link>
		<dc:creator>stopthebuzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 03:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>couple hundred bucks? in my day we scavenged for ramp making items! all you need are random boards and some junk to prop them up on! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>couple hundred bucks? in my day we scavenged for ramp making items! all you need are random boards and some junk to prop them up on! :)</p>
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		<title>By: stopthebuzz</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/07/30/bike-lane-changes-on-ballard-bridge/comment-page-2/#comment-12987</link>
		<dc:creator>stopthebuzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 03:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wouldn&#039;t send my kids across that intersection the current way either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wouldn&#39;t send my kids across that intersection the current way either.</p>
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		<title>By: SeaSpider</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/07/30/bike-lane-changes-on-ballard-bridge/comment-page-2/#comment-12999</link>
		<dc:creator>SeaSpider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 02:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally it&#039;s never been an issue for me. When I ride downtown I turn right and continue on Emerson over to Gilman and then to the bike path along the waterfront. It&#039;s a far more scenic and relaxing ride and adds less than 5 minutes to my commute (fewer traffic lights to wait at). I can&#039;t understand why anyone riding downtown from Ballard would want to ride all the way down 15th/Elliott after the bridge. If I were heading to Queen Anne I&#039;d go over the Fremont bridge. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s like people who whine about the tracks on the missing link/45th while ignoring the fact that there is a perfectly safe, track-free route a whopping one block away. I think it&#039;s because most cyclists are also drivers and when they&#039;re on the bike they tend to navigate as if they were in a car ignoring that cars and bikes are not the same in traffic. Roads that are slower for a car are often faster for a cyclist - amazing how many cyclists fail to grasp this concept! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s an old bridge and I&#039;m hard pressed to think of any solutions that would actually be cost effective. In a more perfect world they tear the bridge down and replace it with a new bridge featuring wider sidewalks for cycling, light rail lines, and no loss of car lanes. Sadly, this is Seattle and that would involve numerous elections, community meetings, lawsuits and take at least two decades!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally it&#39;s never been an issue for me. When I ride downtown I turn right and continue on Emerson over to Gilman and then to the bike path along the waterfront. It&#39;s a far more scenic and relaxing ride and adds less than 5 minutes to my commute (fewer traffic lights to wait at). I can&#39;t understand why anyone riding downtown from Ballard would want to ride all the way down 15th/Elliott after the bridge. If I were heading to Queen Anne I&#39;d go over the Fremont bridge. </p>
<p>It&#39;s like people who whine about the tracks on the missing link/45th while ignoring the fact that there is a perfectly safe, track-free route a whopping one block away. I think it&#39;s because most cyclists are also drivers and when they&#39;re on the bike they tend to navigate as if they were in a car ignoring that cars and bikes are not the same in traffic. Roads that are slower for a car are often faster for a cyclist &#8211; amazing how many cyclists fail to grasp this concept! </p>
<p>It&#39;s an old bridge and I&#39;m hard pressed to think of any solutions that would actually be cost effective. In a more perfect world they tear the bridge down and replace it with a new bridge featuring wider sidewalks for cycling, light rail lines, and no loss of car lanes. Sadly, this is Seattle and that would involve numerous elections, community meetings, lawsuits and take at least two decades!!!</p>
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		<title>By: SeaSpider</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/07/30/bike-lane-changes-on-ballard-bridge/comment-page-2/#comment-12957</link>
		<dc:creator>SeaSpider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 02:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They probably could. As a reference look at how it&#039;s illegal to ride on many freeways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They probably could. As a reference look at how it&#39;s illegal to ride on many freeways.</p>
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		<title>By: Ballard_Curmudgeon</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/07/30/bike-lane-changes-on-ballard-bridge/comment-page-2/#comment-12959</link>
		<dc:creator>Ballard_Curmudgeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 01:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a novel idea:  walk your bike across it.</description>
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		<title>By: bbb1</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/07/30/bike-lane-changes-on-ballard-bridge/comment-page-2/#comment-12958</link>
		<dc:creator>bbb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 00:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. So for persons in Ballard who want to get south, they would cross at the Locks (not possible after dusk) or go to the Fremont Bridge (or the new bug ferry!). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Alternative is to ride in motor vehicle lanes of course, but very narrow and sure to induce anger on driver&#039;s part. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ballard Curmudgeon  - what do you propose? Fremont Bridge, or can the bicyclers go on the roadway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. So for persons in Ballard who want to get south, they would cross at the Locks (not possible after dusk) or go to the Fremont Bridge (or the new bug ferry!). </p>
<p>Alternative is to ride in motor vehicle lanes of course, but very narrow and sure to induce anger on driver&#39;s part. </p>
<p>Ballard Curmudgeon  &#8211; what do you propose? Fremont Bridge, or can the bicyclers go on the roadway?</p>
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		<title>By: gurple</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/07/30/bike-lane-changes-on-ballard-bridge/comment-page-2/#comment-12956</link>
		<dc:creator>gurple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting thought -- I wonder if the city /could/ make it illegal for bicyclists to ride on Ballard Bridge.  I don&#039;t think they should, but it would be interesting to know if there&#039;s any legal way to do that. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Barring such an extreme &quot;solution&quot;, it seems like what needs to be done is to make the bridge as safe as possible.  I think these changes help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting thought &#8212; I wonder if the city /could/ make it illegal for bicyclists to ride on Ballard Bridge.  I don&#39;t think they should, but it would be interesting to know if there&#39;s any legal way to do that. </p>
<p>Barring such an extreme &#8220;solution&#8221;, it seems like what needs to be done is to make the bridge as safe as possible.  I think these changes help.</p>
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		<title>By: Ballard_Curmudgeon</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/07/30/bike-lane-changes-on-ballard-bridge/comment-page-2/#comment-12955</link>
		<dc:creator>Ballard_Curmudgeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s because it is NOT meant for bicyclist.  It was built for pedestrians, bicyclist have appropriated it and caused no end of headaches and created a very dangerous situation.  Bicyclist have to accept that some older bridges were simply not designed for bicycles.  It should be illegal for them to ride on the sidewalks on that bridge.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you want to rebuild the bridge, I&#039;m all for it, but what you&#039;ve done is made an old bridge very very dangerous for bikes and pedestrians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s because it is NOT meant for bicyclist.  It was built for pedestrians, bicyclist have appropriated it and caused no end of headaches and created a very dangerous situation.  Bicyclist have to accept that some older bridges were simply not designed for bicycles.  It should be illegal for them to ride on the sidewalks on that bridge.</p>
<p>If you want to rebuild the bridge, I&#39;m all for it, but what you&#39;ve done is made an old bridge very very dangerous for bikes and pedestrians.</p>
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		<title>By: bbb1</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/07/30/bike-lane-changes-on-ballard-bridge/comment-page-2/#comment-12996</link>
		<dc:creator>bbb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent!!</description>
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		<title>By: MichaelSnyder</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/07/30/bike-lane-changes-on-ballard-bridge/comment-page-2/#comment-12945</link>
		<dc:creator>MichaelSnyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is some (hard to find) signage for pedestrians on the east side and on the south side, but I don&#039;t remember seeing any signs (even for pedestrians) about the stairs at this corner.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;...and stairs usually aren&#039;t considered a bicycling facility.  There are some bikes (hand crank bikes for parapylegics, or electric bikes with 50 pounds of batteries for example) which aren&#039;t practical or physically possible for their operator to carry down the stairs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is some (hard to find) signage for pedestrians on the east side and on the south side, but I don&#39;t remember seeing any signs (even for pedestrians) about the stairs at this corner.</p>
<p>&#8230;and stairs usually aren&#39;t considered a bicycling facility.  There are some bikes (hand crank bikes for parapylegics, or electric bikes with 50 pounds of batteries for example) which aren&#39;t practical or physically possible for their operator to carry down the stairs.</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelSnyder</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/07/30/bike-lane-changes-on-ballard-bridge/comment-page-2/#comment-12982</link>
		<dc:creator>MichaelSnyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see 30 mph at the bridge itself, but heading southbound, just past the bridge and about halfway down the approach, the speed limit changes to 40.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;With the previous design, before they added a new sign (I think earlier this year), there was nothing to indicate to drivers that they need to yield to cyclists.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, in the few hours that I was doing the bike count, I only saw two cars yield to cyclists, and they were already nearly stopped for the gridlock of turning traffic headed over to SPU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see 30 mph at the bridge itself, but heading southbound, just past the bridge and about halfway down the approach, the speed limit changes to 40.</p>
<p>With the previous design, before they added a new sign (I think earlier this year), there was nothing to indicate to drivers that they need to yield to cyclists.</p>
<p>Also, in the few hours that I was doing the bike count, I only saw two cars yield to cyclists, and they were already nearly stopped for the gridlock of turning traffic headed over to SPU.</p>
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		<title>By: lovetheparkingchange</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/07/30/bike-lane-changes-on-ballard-bridge/comment-page-2/#comment-12932</link>
		<dc:creator>lovetheparkingchange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nora, we know you don&#039;t ride a bike so pipe down!lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nora, we know you don&#39;t ride a bike so pipe down!lol</p>
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		<title>By: lovetheparkingchange</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/07/30/bike-lane-changes-on-ballard-bridge/comment-page-2/#comment-12981</link>
		<dc:creator>lovetheparkingchange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is incorrect, currently cars are supposed to yield, the current configuration makes many cyclist not want to use thier right of  way because drivers are awful at merging. I signal, make eyecontact and keep moving. The speed limit is 30 on the bridge and most cars are slowing down to make the right. The worst problem I&#039;ve had is from the folks who are not turning, they charge up to 60 miles an hour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is incorrect, currently cars are supposed to yield, the current configuration makes many cyclist not want to use thier right of  way because drivers are awful at merging. I signal, make eyecontact and keep moving. The speed limit is 30 on the bridge and most cars are slowing down to make the right. The worst problem I&#39;ve had is from the folks who are not turning, they charge up to 60 miles an hour.</p>
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		<title>By: lovetheparkingchange</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/07/30/bike-lane-changes-on-ballard-bridge/comment-page-2/#comment-12984</link>
		<dc:creator>lovetheparkingchange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>xtev the right of way is not changing, drivers are already supposed to be yielding to cyclist entering the road from the bridge.&lt;br&gt; Do you even live in Ballard? Despite your  inconvenience bikes are allowed on almost every road in the state. Bikes and cars can use the same roads so long as drivers remember it&#039;s not a video game and there are lives at stake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>xtev the right of way is not changing, drivers are already supposed to be yielding to cyclist entering the road from the bridge.<br /> Do you even live in Ballard? Despite your  inconvenience bikes are allowed on almost every road in the state. Bikes and cars can use the same roads so long as drivers remember it&#39;s not a video game and there are lives at stake.</p>
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		<title>By: lovetheparkingchange</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/07/30/bike-lane-changes-on-ballard-bridge/comment-page-2/#comment-12998</link>
		<dc:creator>lovetheparkingchange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not perfect but at least it will be better that what&#039;s there currently. I ride there everyday and half  the time people don&#039;t yield. It doesn&#039;t matter how the signage is people are either impatient for the few seconds it takes to clear the gap, texting, applying make-up, too dumb to read the sign or they  just want to intimidate bikers. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regarding the actual photos, the slot in the wall looks too short, it needs to be longer by a few feet to the north. I can see someone snagging a pedal because of the way you turn to get through the slot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s not perfect but at least it will be better that what&#39;s there currently. I ride there everyday and half  the time people don&#39;t yield. It doesn&#39;t matter how the signage is people are either impatient for the few seconds it takes to clear the gap, texting, applying make-up, too dumb to read the sign or they  just want to intimidate bikers. </p>
<p>Regarding the actual photos, the slot in the wall looks too short, it needs to be longer by a few feet to the north. I can see someone snagging a pedal because of the way you turn to get through the slot.</p>
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		<title>By: fuzzbeans</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/07/30/bike-lane-changes-on-ballard-bridge/comment-page-2/#comment-12979</link>
		<dc:creator>fuzzbeans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you suggesting the that cyclist wait until after rush hour to cross?</description>
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		<title>By: kim1234</title>
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		<dc:creator>kim1234</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agreed.  too many people in too big of a hurry here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agreed.  too many people in too big of a hurry here.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnF</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 08:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I rode home tonight from Bellevue and thought a lot about this issue and then went the extra mile to check this section out. Here are my thoughts:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1. One of the hardest things to do riding a bike is to look behind you and judge the distance and approaching speed of oncoming traffic. I&#039;ve been riding for years and I am still not great at this. The proposed curb cutout makes everyone perform this action and while there are surely some of you here that can judge perfectly each and every time most of us cannot. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2. Another difficult thing for many cyclists is starting from a dead stop, which is what they will have to do at this intersection. With what I mentioned in #1 and the general speed of traffic this is very dicey.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3. I also walked down the stairs and across and up the other side of Emerson. While the steps are steep this is not impossible. A decent solution would be to pave a ramp in the middle of the steps so cyclists can walk their bikes. I thought of this because a few people mentioned that it&#039;s a pain to carry their bikes up and down the steps. I agree with you and I bet paving a ramp would cost less than cutting the barrier and installing turtles and lights to try and slow down cars.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;4. I also am sympathetic to the median problem for trucks. I&#039;ve been on the 17 bus when it&#039;s had troubles making the turn. Please go ahead and make that median smaller so traffic can get through.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;5. It also wouldn&#039;t hurt to install a couple of lights in the underpass to make people feel safer walking through it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;6. As for pedestrians I feel if they can walk across the bridge they can take the stairs and use the underpass. This is a common solution in most cities for this scenario.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I hope you will see this as thoughtful input for the safety of everyone. I love Ballard and plan to live, cycle, walk and occasionally drive here for a long time.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Have a good night everyone,&lt;br&gt;John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I rode home tonight from Bellevue and thought a lot about this issue and then went the extra mile to check this section out. Here are my thoughts:</p>
<p>1. One of the hardest things to do riding a bike is to look behind you and judge the distance and approaching speed of oncoming traffic. I&#39;ve been riding for years and I am still not great at this. The proposed curb cutout makes everyone perform this action and while there are surely some of you here that can judge perfectly each and every time most of us cannot. </p>
<p>2. Another difficult thing for many cyclists is starting from a dead stop, which is what they will have to do at this intersection. With what I mentioned in #1 and the general speed of traffic this is very dicey.</p>
<p>3. I also walked down the stairs and across and up the other side of Emerson. While the steps are steep this is not impossible. A decent solution would be to pave a ramp in the middle of the steps so cyclists can walk their bikes. I thought of this because a few people mentioned that it&#39;s a pain to carry their bikes up and down the steps. I agree with you and I bet paving a ramp would cost less than cutting the barrier and installing turtles and lights to try and slow down cars.</p>
<p>4. I also am sympathetic to the median problem for trucks. I&#39;ve been on the 17 bus when it&#39;s had troubles making the turn. Please go ahead and make that median smaller so traffic can get through.</p>
<p>5. It also wouldn&#39;t hurt to install a couple of lights in the underpass to make people feel safer walking through it.</p>
<p>6. As for pedestrians I feel if they can walk across the bridge they can take the stairs and use the underpass. This is a common solution in most cities for this scenario.</p>
<p>I hope you will see this as thoughtful input for the safety of everyone. I love Ballard and plan to live, cycle, walk and occasionally drive here for a long time.</p>
<p>Have a good night everyone,<br />John</p>
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		<title>By: Mondoman</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/07/30/bike-lane-changes-on-ballard-bridge/comment-page-2/#comment-12995</link>
		<dc:creator>Mondoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 08:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE best and 2nd-coolest solution (coolest is the bike jump over Emerson):&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Get a few of the tiny double-ended ped/bike ferries that Vancouver BC uses in False Creek and run them as a water shuttle between the 14th Ave boat ramp (Ballard) and Fisherman&#039;s Terminal (Interbay).  The former should (eventually) be easily accessible from the BG &quot;Missing Link&quot;, and the latter provides decent connections to the Interbay bike trail and onward along Elliott Bay *without* having to ride on 15th.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE best and 2nd-coolest solution (coolest is the bike jump over Emerson):</p>
<p>Get a few of the tiny double-ended ped/bike ferries that Vancouver BC uses in False Creek and run them as a water shuttle between the 14th Ave boat ramp (Ballard) and Fisherman&#39;s Terminal (Interbay).  The former should (eventually) be easily accessible from the BG &#8220;Missing Link&#8221;, and the latter provides decent connections to the Interbay bike trail and onward along Elliott Bay *without* having to ride on 15th.</p>
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		<title>By: eric</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/07/30/bike-lane-changes-on-ballard-bridge/comment-page-2/#comment-12991</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i know the jump may not work for everybody, but i think its worth a shot.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;couple hundred bucks for supplies - badda bing badda boom, problem solved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i know the jump may not work for everybody, but i think its worth a shot.</p>
<p>couple hundred bucks for supplies &#8211; badda bing badda boom, problem solved.</p>
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		<title>By: BTown</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/07/30/bike-lane-changes-on-ballard-bridge/comment-page-2/#comment-12994</link>
		<dc:creator>BTown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dumbest city planning department ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dumbest city planning department ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Sammy1981</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/07/30/bike-lane-changes-on-ballard-bridge/comment-page-2/#comment-12978</link>
		<dc:creator>Sammy1981</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, sorry if you&#039;re impatient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, sorry if you&#39;re impatient.</p>
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		<title>By: bbb1</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/07/30/bike-lane-changes-on-ballard-bridge/comment-page-2/#comment-12990</link>
		<dc:creator>bbb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Might need a hydraulic slingshot ejector starting a bit farther back to get up enough speed to get over those 18 wheelers!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Might need a hydraulic slingshot ejector starting a bit farther back to get up enough speed to get over those 18 wheelers!!</p>
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		<title>By: bbb1</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/07/30/bike-lane-changes-on-ballard-bridge/comment-page-2/#comment-12986</link>
		<dc:creator>bbb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Representatives from BINMIC, North Seattle Industrial Assn., Bicycle and Pedestrian Advisory Boards, SDOT Traffic Engineers, SDOT staffers, Manufacturing and Industrial Council reps. The full gamut of freight, ped, bike community. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No one  has been asked to send their kids down this route. It is recognized that the sidewalks are narrow, and negotiating this crossing is not for the faint of heart. This was identified early on in the process as a real &#039;conflict&#039; zone between ped/bikes and vehicles, so folks talked through a bunch of low cost solutions, and it appears SDOT has costed out some high end big ticket options as well. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My hats off to SDOT for this slow, vetted process of improvement. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Slow Down...You&#039;re in Ballard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Representatives from BINMIC, North Seattle Industrial Assn., Bicycle and Pedestrian Advisory Boards, SDOT Traffic Engineers, SDOT staffers, Manufacturing and Industrial Council reps. The full gamut of freight, ped, bike community. </p>
<p>No one  has been asked to send their kids down this route. It is recognized that the sidewalks are narrow, and negotiating this crossing is not for the faint of heart. This was identified early on in the process as a real &#39;conflict&#39; zone between ped/bikes and vehicles, so folks talked through a bunch of low cost solutions, and it appears SDOT has costed out some high end big ticket options as well. </p>
<p>My hats off to SDOT for this slow, vetted process of improvement. </p>
<p>Slow Down&#8230;You&#39;re in Ballard</p>
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