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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/08/03/bicyclist-injured-in-collision-with-car/comment-page-3/#comment-10697</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 04:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks sustainablequ.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve also been a bike commuter and I know what it&#039;s like to have to deal with the inattentive and rude cars and pedestrians.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As a driver, it&#039;s bad enough to be involved in an accident but it&#039;s much worse to be involved in an accident with a bicycle, especially with my son in the car!  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m glad the cyclist will be OK and hopefully he&#039;ll be much more careful about obeying traffic laws.  Cyclists who run lights, stop signs, etc are playing roulette and are highly likely to eventually be involved in an accident.  Not to mention, they give all cyclists a bad name/image!    &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The cyclist did receive a failure to yield ticket for this accident.  He has admitted to the police and my insurance company that he didn&#039;t see the stop sign or the yield sign on 58th Street.  I&#039;m glad that he&#039;s taking responsibility for causing it.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This accident caused about $2,000 damage to my car and I learned this week that to get my car repaired I need to pay my $500 insurance deductible myself.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cyclists aren&#039;t considered by insurance companies to be &quot;uninsured/underinsured motorists&quot; so if someone on a bicycle damages your car you&#039;ll have to pay your deductible out of pocket and hope to be reimbursed later if it wasn&#039;t your fault.    &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The deductible for an uninsured/underinsured motorist is lower, only $100.    &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the event that the insurance company can collect money from the cyclist then I&#039;ll be reimbursed.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m looking forward to putting this incident behind me and not thinking about it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks sustainablequ.  </p>
<p>I&#39;ve also been a bike commuter and I know what it&#39;s like to have to deal with the inattentive and rude cars and pedestrians.  </p>
<p>As a driver, it&#39;s bad enough to be involved in an accident but it&#39;s much worse to be involved in an accident with a bicycle, especially with my son in the car!  </p>
<p>I&#39;m glad the cyclist will be OK and hopefully he&#39;ll be much more careful about obeying traffic laws.  Cyclists who run lights, stop signs, etc are playing roulette and are highly likely to eventually be involved in an accident.  Not to mention, they give all cyclists a bad name/image!    </p>
<p>The cyclist did receive a failure to yield ticket for this accident.  He has admitted to the police and my insurance company that he didn&#39;t see the stop sign or the yield sign on 58th Street.  I&#39;m glad that he&#39;s taking responsibility for causing it.  </p>
<p>This accident caused about $2,000 damage to my car and I learned this week that to get my car repaired I need to pay my $500 insurance deductible myself.  </p>
<p>Cyclists aren&#39;t considered by insurance companies to be &#8220;uninsured/underinsured motorists&#8221; so if someone on a bicycle damages your car you&#39;ll have to pay your deductible out of pocket and hope to be reimbursed later if it wasn&#39;t your fault.    </p>
<p>The deductible for an uninsured/underinsured motorist is lower, only $100.    </p>
<p>In the event that the insurance company can collect money from the cyclist then I&#39;ll be reimbursed.   </p>
<p>I&#39;m looking forward to putting this incident behind me and not thinking about it!</p>
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		<title>By: sustainableqa</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/08/03/bicyclist-injured-in-collision-with-car/comment-page-3/#comment-10696</link>
		<dc:creator>sustainableqa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David - I want to thank you for maintaining such a polite and respectful tone in your posts especially in light of the fact that the cyclist here was likely at fault.  There&#039;s nothing like a frightening accident like this to bring out our emotions and upset (especially with a 10 yr-old in the car!).  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ps- I am a cycle-commuter and I am so happy there are people like you sharing the road with me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David &#8211; I want to thank you for maintaining such a polite and respectful tone in your posts especially in light of the fact that the cyclist here was likely at fault.  There&#39;s nothing like a frightening accident like this to bring out our emotions and upset (especially with a 10 yr-old in the car!).  </p>
<p>ps- I am a cycle-commuter and I am so happy there are people like you sharing the road with me.</p>
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		<title>By: SPG</title>
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		<dc:creator>SPG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 13:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Took notice on 85th/32nd today. No foliage blocking the stop sign, soooo....nevermind.</description>
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		<title>By: binkura</title>
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		<dc:creator>binkura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 05:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would probably be best if Ballard adopts the mantra &quot;Look out for each other&quot;. Let&#039;s stop thinking of ourselves as drivers, cyclists, and pedestrians. Instead, we should all remember that no matter what vehicle you&#039;re operating, whether it be 4 wheels, 2 wheels or your feet, it is everybody&#039;s duty to obey the law and stop at stop signs. Let the rest of Seattle be jerks to each other. Let the hipsters ride their fixies on Capitol Hill. Let drivers on cell phones run each other over in Lake City. But in Ballard, let&#039;s just chill out, treat each other with respect, and try our best not to injure or kill anyone else. Agreed?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, I&#039;m thinking of printing on my biking bag, in large letters, &quot;You can have my parking spot.&quot; Would that convince drivers to give me more leeway as a cyclist, or would that be perceived as cheeky?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would probably be best if Ballard adopts the mantra &#8220;Look out for each other&#8221;. Let&#39;s stop thinking of ourselves as drivers, cyclists, and pedestrians. Instead, we should all remember that no matter what vehicle you&#39;re operating, whether it be 4 wheels, 2 wheels or your feet, it is everybody&#39;s duty to obey the law and stop at stop signs. Let the rest of Seattle be jerks to each other. Let the hipsters ride their fixies on Capitol Hill. Let drivers on cell phones run each other over in Lake City. But in Ballard, let&#39;s just chill out, treat each other with respect, and try our best not to injure or kill anyone else. Agreed?</p>
<p>Also, I&#39;m thinking of printing on my biking bag, in large letters, &#8220;You can have my parking spot.&#8221; Would that convince drivers to give me more leeway as a cyclist, or would that be perceived as cheeky?</p>
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		<title>By: SPG</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/08/03/bicyclist-injured-in-collision-with-car/comment-page-3/#comment-10693</link>
		<dc:creator>SPG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 01:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to justify any of this, but...&lt;br&gt;85th and 32nd like many intersections has the stop sign occasionally blocked by overgrown greenery. I drive through that intersection just about every day and I haven&#039;t seen anyone blow the stop sign. ever. Maybe they do when they don&#039;t see other cars, since I guess you&#039;re walking there, but that&#039;s no excuse to blow a stop.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The bike on the bridge is a little odd, but I could see how some experienced cyclists don&#039;t like to get stuck in that narrow little crossing path while oversized tourists gawk at the canal, and decide that riding over on the traffic lane is better. A bad choice if you ask me, but again this is something I&#039;ve never seen either, so I guess it was a one time thing unlike how people daily pull out of the parking spots in front of PCC and drive the wrong way down the one way street thinking the bike lane is a car lane going East. Oh yeah, and how many times you have seen someone try to make the southbound left at that corner into the one way coming from the East?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to justify any of this, but&#8230;<br />85th and 32nd like many intersections has the stop sign occasionally blocked by overgrown greenery. I drive through that intersection just about every day and I haven&#39;t seen anyone blow the stop sign. ever. Maybe they do when they don&#39;t see other cars, since I guess you&#39;re walking there, but that&#39;s no excuse to blow a stop.</p>
<p>The bike on the bridge is a little odd, but I could see how some experienced cyclists don&#39;t like to get stuck in that narrow little crossing path while oversized tourists gawk at the canal, and decide that riding over on the traffic lane is better. A bad choice if you ask me, but again this is something I&#39;ve never seen either, so I guess it was a one time thing unlike how people daily pull out of the parking spots in front of PCC and drive the wrong way down the one way street thinking the bike lane is a car lane going East. Oh yeah, and how many times you have seen someone try to make the southbound left at that corner into the one way coming from the East?</p>
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		<title>By: Jules2</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/08/03/bicyclist-injured-in-collision-with-car/comment-page-3/#comment-10692</link>
		<dc:creator>Jules2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 00:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the worst intersections in Ballard is at 85th and 32nd. I can&#039;t tell you how many times I&#039;ve seen drivers coming up from Golden Gardens blow through that intersection. I&#039;m suprised that there haven&#039;t been more accidents there.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One of the freakiest things I&#039;ve EVER seen happend a few weeks ago on the Fremont Bridge. I was crossing North-to South in the far right-hand lane, and there was a guy on a bicycle riding directly towards me IN my lane. For some unknown reason there were no cars in the left lane, so I moved over. (this was about 5:30 PM, so rush hour.) (also he wasn&#039;t wearing a helmet- anyone who thinks this is a good idea should visit the rehab units at Harborview or University hospital.) I honked and he just waved at me! How he negotiated the grating on the bridge is also a mystery to me. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;IF there had been traffic on the bridge, (as I said, it was quite unusual for rush hour) there was no way I could&#039;ve avoided hitting him.The passenger in my car just about had a heart attack. I&#039;ve no idea what this guy was thinking. Probably the same thing that people who drive the wrong way on one-way streets!  He went the wrong way all the way across the Fremont Bridge and then turned down the first cross street.&lt;br&gt;Drunk, maybe? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyway, I hope that people will be more concious of what they are doing, and pay a lot more attention to the rules of the road. This isn&#039;t Hooterville; there are a lot more cars and bikes on the road than there were 10 years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the worst intersections in Ballard is at 85th and 32nd. I can&#39;t tell you how many times I&#39;ve seen drivers coming up from Golden Gardens blow through that intersection. I&#39;m suprised that there haven&#39;t been more accidents there.  </p>
<p>One of the freakiest things I&#39;ve EVER seen happend a few weeks ago on the Fremont Bridge. I was crossing North-to South in the far right-hand lane, and there was a guy on a bicycle riding directly towards me IN my lane. For some unknown reason there were no cars in the left lane, so I moved over. (this was about 5:30 PM, so rush hour.) (also he wasn&#39;t wearing a helmet- anyone who thinks this is a good idea should visit the rehab units at Harborview or University hospital.) I honked and he just waved at me! How he negotiated the grating on the bridge is also a mystery to me. </p>
<p>IF there had been traffic on the bridge, (as I said, it was quite unusual for rush hour) there was no way I could&#39;ve avoided hitting him.The passenger in my car just about had a heart attack. I&#39;ve no idea what this guy was thinking. Probably the same thing that people who drive the wrong way on one-way streets!  He went the wrong way all the way across the Fremont Bridge and then turned down the first cross street.<br />Drunk, maybe? </p>
<p>Anyway, I hope that people will be more concious of what they are doing, and pay a lot more attention to the rules of the road. This isn&#39;t Hooterville; there are a lot more cars and bikes on the road than there were 10 years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Jules2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jules2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t get me started. The Seattle School District started a campaign to close most north-end schools about 30 years ago. I had a list at one time; they closed Lincoln, Queen Anne, half the grade schools and middle schools in Ballard, N. Seattle, Broadview. Queen Anne and Magnolia; it was part of  a master plan that went hand in hand with the busing program. People sent their kids to private schools in droves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#39;t get me started. The Seattle School District started a campaign to close most north-end schools about 30 years ago. I had a list at one time; they closed Lincoln, Queen Anne, half the grade schools and middle schools in Ballard, N. Seattle, Broadview. Queen Anne and Magnolia; it was part of  a master plan that went hand in hand with the busing program. People sent their kids to private schools in droves.</p>
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		<title>By: FremontSheila</title>
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		<dc:creator>FremontSheila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weak</description>
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		<title>By: Name</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/08/03/bicyclist-injured-in-collision-with-car/comment-page-3/#comment-10637</link>
		<dc:creator>Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think he did it on purpose. Rather he was zipping through traffic and cars and got too close to me. Still I couldn&#039;t believe he didn&#039;t even stop. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Damn near hit a cyclist this morning as well. She just zoomed off the trail right into the street without even looking. I had to swerve to miss her. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Its dangerous out there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t think he did it on purpose. Rather he was zipping through traffic and cars and got too close to me. Still I couldn&#39;t believe he didn&#39;t even stop. </p>
<p>Damn near hit a cyclist this morning as well. She just zoomed off the trail right into the street without even looking. I had to swerve to miss her. </p>
<p>Its dangerous out there!</p>
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		<title>By: ym</title>
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		<dc:creator>ym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s worth repeating.</description>
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		<title>By: SPG</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/08/03/bicyclist-injured-in-collision-with-car/comment-page-2/#comment-10607</link>
		<dc:creator>SPG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sweeeet! I&#039;m gonna go run down all the kids in front of Ballard High School as soon as classes start up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweeeet! I&#39;m gonna go run down all the kids in front of Ballard High School as soon as classes start up!</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/08/03/bicyclist-injured-in-collision-with-car/comment-page-2/#comment-10609</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where on earth did you get the notion that peds always have the right of way on campus? The streets on campus are regular city streets, and subject to all the rules &amp; regulations as other Seattle streets. Peds crossing in anything but a crosswalk (marked or unmarked) are supposed to yield the ROW to vehicles, bikes are supposed to yield to peds, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where on earth did you get the notion that peds always have the right of way on campus? The streets on campus are regular city streets, and subject to all the rules &#038; regulations as other Seattle streets. Peds crossing in anything but a crosswalk (marked or unmarked) are supposed to yield the ROW to vehicles, bikes are supposed to yield to peds, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pedestrian most assuredly does not always have the right of way. RCW 46.61.240 states that &quot;Every pedestrian crossing a roadway at any point other than within a marked crosswalk or within an unmarked crosswalk at an intersection shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles upon the roadway.&quot; In other words, if you&#039;re jaywalking, you do not have ROW.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That said, speed and tonnage outweigh ROW every time, regardless of the mode of transit. Even if you&#039;re the first person at a four-way stop and there&#039;s no one to your right, you still check for traffic to your left. And if you see a semi coming at 45mph with no signs of slowing down, you stay put, even if the law says you get to go first. Same goes for peds &amp; bikes. Look both ways, and go when it&#039;s clear. Otherwise you&#039;re just asking to get hit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pedestrian most assuredly does not always have the right of way. RCW 46.61.240 states that &#8220;Every pedestrian crossing a roadway at any point other than within a marked crosswalk or within an unmarked crosswalk at an intersection shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles upon the roadway.&#8221; In other words, if you&#39;re jaywalking, you do not have ROW.</p>
<p>That said, speed and tonnage outweigh ROW every time, regardless of the mode of transit. Even if you&#39;re the first person at a four-way stop and there&#39;s no one to your right, you still check for traffic to your left. And if you see a semi coming at 45mph with no signs of slowing down, you stay put, even if the law says you get to go first. Same goes for peds &#038; bikes. Look both ways, and go when it&#39;s clear. Otherwise you&#39;re just asking to get hit.</p>
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		<title>By: NoraBell</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoraBell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 12:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jaywalking pedestrians are why many drivers hate pedestrians.</description>
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		<title>By: joejoejoew</title>
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		<dc:creator>joejoejoew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 10:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, I hadn&#039;t read this one yet, please see my post above.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t deny that there are plenty of dangerous riders and drivers out there. And we should follow the law to the best of our ability.  But the fact is, no one does.  What we need is for people (everyone!) to relax and take there time when they are on the street.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I also agree with the posts about not stopping in the middle of the road to let a pedestrian jaywalk or cyclist cross.  I hate that.  It is dangerous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, I hadn&#39;t read this one yet, please see my post above.</p>
<p>I don&#39;t deny that there are plenty of dangerous riders and drivers out there. And we should follow the law to the best of our ability.  But the fact is, no one does.  What we need is for people (everyone!) to relax and take there time when they are on the street.</p>
<p>I also agree with the posts about not stopping in the middle of the road to let a pedestrian jaywalk or cyclist cross.  I hate that.  It is dangerous.</p>
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		<title>By: joejoejoew</title>
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		<dc:creator>joejoejoew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 09:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, I drive almost every day.  The fact is, almost no drivers come to a full stop at every stop sign.  I&#039;m not saying its dangerous, but, technically, most drivers break the law all of the time.  At least as much as cyclists, probably more.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The same is true for pedestrians.  Most people jaywalk safely, and the cops never ticket for it.  At least thats my experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, I drive almost every day.  The fact is, almost no drivers come to a full stop at every stop sign.  I&#39;m not saying its dangerous, but, technically, most drivers break the law all of the time.  At least as much as cyclists, probably more.</p>
<p>The same is true for pedestrians.  Most people jaywalk safely, and the cops never ticket for it.  At least thats my experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Jules2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jules2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 09:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What states is this legal in?</description>
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		<title>By: Jules2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jules2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 09:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you nuts? The stop sign means STOP. I don&#039;t care if you are in a car, bike, Scooter, Vespa ,  motorized skateboard or Segway.. The laws apply to everyone. What you mean by &quot;it&#039;s quite safe when done correctly&quot; is really &quot; I do what I feel like, because I don&#039;t want to be inconvenienced.&quot; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here&#039;s a perfect example (and joke.)&lt;br&gt;Farmer Jones lives down a rural road that connects to an arterial. One morning, he does a rolling &quot;California Stop &quot; through the Stop Sign onto the road, and Officer Friendly, the State Trooper, pulls him over.&lt;br&gt;Officer Friendly:&quot; Do you know why I pulled you over? Didn&#039;t you see the stop sign?&quot;&lt;br&gt;Farmer Jones:&quot;Sonny, I&#039;ve been driving this road for 60 years, and I&#039;ve never stopped, and I&#039;ve never had an accident. I alwasy slow down, though.&lt;br&gt;Officer Friendly then pulls out his nightstick, and starts beating Farmer Jones with it.&lt;br&gt;Officer Friendly: &quot; Ok, Farmer Jones; which would you prefer; that I stop, or I slow down?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you nuts? The stop sign means STOP. I don&#39;t care if you are in a car, bike, Scooter, Vespa ,  motorized skateboard or Segway.. The laws apply to everyone. What you mean by &#8220;it&#39;s quite safe when done correctly&#8221; is really &#8221; I do what I feel like, because I don&#39;t want to be inconvenienced.&#8221; </p>
<p>Here&#39;s a perfect example (and joke.)<br />Farmer Jones lives down a rural road that connects to an arterial. One morning, he does a rolling &#8220;California Stop &#8221; through the Stop Sign onto the road, and Officer Friendly, the State Trooper, pulls him over.<br />Officer Friendly:&#8221; Do you know why I pulled you over? Didn&#39;t you see the stop sign?&#8221;<br />Farmer Jones:&#8221;Sonny, I&#39;ve been driving this road for 60 years, and I&#39;ve never stopped, and I&#39;ve never had an accident. I alwasy slow down, though.<br />Officer Friendly then pulls out his nightstick, and starts beating Farmer Jones with it.<br />Officer Friendly: &#8221; Ok, Farmer Jones; which would you prefer; that I stop, or I slow down?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Stupid Hippie</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/08/03/bicyclist-injured-in-collision-with-car/comment-page-2/#comment-10685</link>
		<dc:creator>Stupid Hippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 09:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cyclists are always entitled, they are saving the planet!</description>
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		<title>By: Stupid Hippie</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/08/03/bicyclist-injured-in-collision-with-car/comment-page-2/#comment-10684</link>
		<dc:creator>Stupid Hippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 09:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cyclists are always entitled, they are saving the planet!</description>
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		<title>By: byanyothername_aroseisarose</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/08/03/bicyclist-injured-in-collision-with-car/comment-page-2/#comment-10682</link>
		<dc:creator>byanyothername_aroseisarose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 08:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are all entitled to our own opinions.  Your comment reflects upon your own uptight nature.  How is that working out for you? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Every bike out there means one less car on the road, one less parking spot to fight for.    &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The rolling stop is legal in a few states and will be here one day too.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Best to everyone involved in the accident, that must have really sucked.  Speedy recovery, both physically and emotionally...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are all entitled to our own opinions.  Your comment reflects upon your own uptight nature.  How is that working out for you? </p>
<p>Every bike out there means one less car on the road, one less parking spot to fight for.    </p>
<p>The rolling stop is legal in a few states and will be here one day too.</p>
<p>Best to everyone involved in the accident, that must have really sucked.  Speedy recovery, both physically and emotionally&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SweetRose</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/08/03/bicyclist-injured-in-collision-with-car/comment-page-2/#comment-10681</link>
		<dc:creator>SweetRose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 08:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a perfect example of the entitlement attitude of too many cyclists.</description>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/08/03/bicyclist-injured-in-collision-with-car/comment-page-2/#comment-10691</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>During the discussion of the redesign of this intersection, I had proposed that the bump-out for the northbound lane be on the south end of this intersection (from e-mail to SDOT, Jan 2008):&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;My only comment is that it seems to make more sense that the bulb-out for the northbound lane to be on the south-east end of the intersection instead on the north east end on the intersection.  This would then require the northbound vehicle to slow prior to entering the intersection and prior to the cross walk.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Had the city incorporated this into the intersection redesign, this accident may not have occured.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During the discussion of the redesign of this intersection, I had proposed that the bump-out for the northbound lane be on the south end of this intersection (from e-mail to SDOT, Jan 2008):</p>
<p>&#8220;My only comment is that it seems to make more sense that the bulb-out for the northbound lane to be on the south-east end of the intersection instead on the north east end on the intersection.  This would then require the northbound vehicle to slow prior to entering the intersection and prior to the cross walk.&#8221;</p>
<p>Had the city incorporated this into the intersection redesign, this accident may not have occured.</p>
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		<title>By: Mini Owner</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/08/03/bicyclist-injured-in-collision-with-car/comment-page-2/#comment-10679</link>
		<dc:creator>Mini Owner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go back to Fremont.</description>
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		<title>By: FremontSheila</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/08/03/bicyclist-injured-in-collision-with-car/comment-page-2/#comment-10678</link>
		<dc:creator>FremontSheila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 06:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you support not following the traffic laws?  Is this for bikes only or do cars get a pass too?</description>
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		<title>By: Louisa</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/08/03/bicyclist-injured-in-collision-with-car/comment-page-2/#comment-10677</link>
		<dc:creator>Louisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 05:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I support the rolling stop, as in, treat a stop sign like a yield sign.  That&#039;s what I do, and it&#039;s quite safe when done correctly.   Some intersections will always be a stop, but not all intersections are the same.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That being said, the cyclist who collided with the mini missed a lovely opportunity to yield, thus avoiding an accident.  (If that is what truly happened).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But really, 14th blows with all of the parked cars.  Change it to a boulevard already.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;xxoo,&lt;br&gt;other ballardbiker</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I support the rolling stop, as in, treat a stop sign like a yield sign.  That&#39;s what I do, and it&#39;s quite safe when done correctly.   Some intersections will always be a stop, but not all intersections are the same.</p>
<p>That being said, the cyclist who collided with the mini missed a lovely opportunity to yield, thus avoiding an accident.  (If that is what truly happened).</p>
<p>But really, 14th blows with all of the parked cars.  Change it to a boulevard already.</p>
<p>xxoo,<br />other ballardbiker</p>
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		<title>By: SPG</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/08/03/bicyclist-injured-in-collision-with-car/comment-page-2/#comment-10670</link>
		<dc:creator>SPG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 05:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nah, the private schools are doing ok, but they haven&#039;t seen anywhere near the increase to compensate for the shrinking enrollment in the public schools.&lt;br&gt;Couple that with the increase in population over the past few decades and the percentage goes even lower. We can speculate on the factors, but it seems that the city is drawing more young professionals starting out and the older couples having kids are moving to the more affordable &#039;burbs while the younger parents are staying where they are and not moving in to the city. That, or the bikini barista scared them all off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nah, the private schools are doing ok, but they haven&#39;t seen anywhere near the increase to compensate for the shrinking enrollment in the public schools.<br />Couple that with the increase in population over the past few decades and the percentage goes even lower. We can speculate on the factors, but it seems that the city is drawing more young professionals starting out and the older couples having kids are moving to the more affordable &#39;burbs while the younger parents are staying where they are and not moving in to the city. That, or the bikini barista scared them all off.</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelSnyder</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/08/03/bicyclist-injured-in-collision-with-car/comment-page-2/#comment-10636</link>
		<dc:creator>MichaelSnyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 05:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Name,&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve heard of a cyclist doing something similar in retaliation to a car driver who nearly ran them off of the road. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That type of thing is illegal, stupid, and counter productive, but when someone is suffering from the &quot;you nearly killed me&quot; rage, they tend to not think straight.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;d be curious what happened in the 2 miles prior to the cyclist ripping your mirror off.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;...or it might not be explainable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Name,<br />I&#39;ve heard of a cyclist doing something similar in retaliation to a car driver who nearly ran them off of the road. </p>
<p>That type of thing is illegal, stupid, and counter productive, but when someone is suffering from the &#8220;you nearly killed me&#8221; rage, they tend to not think straight.</p>
<p>I&#39;d be curious what happened in the 2 miles prior to the cyclist ripping your mirror off.</p>
<p>&#8230;or it might not be explainable.</p>
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		<title>By: SPG</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/08/03/bicyclist-injured-in-collision-with-car/comment-page-2/#comment-10674</link>
		<dc:creator>SPG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 05:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Working on it.</description>
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		<title>By: BallardBiker</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/08/03/bicyclist-injured-in-collision-with-car/comment-page-2/#comment-10676</link>
		<dc:creator>BallardBiker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 04:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello fellow Ballard Bikers and Drivers.&lt;br&gt;Please, If you are a bicyclist you MUST stop at ALL stop signs and traffic lights.&lt;br&gt;You MUST yield to all traffic at all yield signs.&lt;br&gt;At all traffic circles you MUST yield the right of way to traffic approaching from your right.&lt;br&gt;If you are a motorist, PLEASE share the road with all bicyclists.&lt;br&gt;If you have the right of way at a traffic circle PLEASE take it, it really messes up the flow for a bicyclist approaching from your left.&lt;br&gt;Can we all try to share the road and ride and drive leagally, please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello fellow Ballard Bikers and Drivers.<br />Please, If you are a bicyclist you MUST stop at ALL stop signs and traffic lights.<br />You MUST yield to all traffic at all yield signs.<br />At all traffic circles you MUST yield the right of way to traffic approaching from your right.<br />If you are a motorist, PLEASE share the road with all bicyclists.<br />If you have the right of way at a traffic circle PLEASE take it, it really messes up the flow for a bicyclist approaching from your left.<br />Can we all try to share the road and ride and drive leagally, please.</p>
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