Comments on: Smashed Prius windshield may not be the only one

By: SPG

SPG — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 05:59:34 +0000

You're naive to think that multiple counts of vandalism against Priuses and only Priuses would be random.
A month ago when this happened was the exact same time Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, and the right wingers were getting their minions fired up to a frenzy. Do the math and stop being a putz.

By: Must_B_Kidding

Must_B_Kidding — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 00:49:06 +0000

Seriously? Two windshields were smashed in a big city, and your conclusion is that they did it as an anti-healthcare protest?

... or just maybe some stupid vandals just smashed a windshield?

Heck no... not in a throaty-sounding SUV... must've been anti-Obama, anti-healthcare evil conservatives. They probably also were smoking, and they probably hate puppies too.

Hmmm... were there any acts of vandalism in any other cities in the US? I wonder what they *mean*?

By: Silver

Silver — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:05:21 +0000

Nuh uh! I don't even own one!

I drive Flash,the wonder Volvo! Member of the Wagon Mafia!

Flash and I drives my bosses kids to school, and pics up their groceries! Around the 'hood, I walk.

By: Becca

Becca — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 00:03:40 +0000

Is it the same truck? I know the old one was hit and smashed…somehow I thought they traded the smashed one for another, slightly newer one. It hadn't occurred to me that it had been repaired! Ha. I guess the joke's on me. I should question my assumptions.

By: devils advocate

devils advocate — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:24:47 +0000

Have you read on Hydrogen? This time with sources!

http://www.energybulletin.net/node/4541

By: devils advocate

devils advocate — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:08:26 +0000

Its because the battery on the Prius is only good for 100,000 and then you have to replace it! Further adding more to the carbon footprint. If you WERE to use your hummer for its life spam (and many people do!) it would last way longer.

Yes, it my be opinion, however there are facts in there that are true. You can't make up that a part of Canada is so void of life that NASA uses it for rover research. Nor can you make up that they ship their parts from here to there back to here.

None the less, its always good to look at the other side.

By: SPG

SPG — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:01:54 +0000

That's the sad truth when you look into anything that is manufactured. All cars require a huge amount of materials, steel that is mined, plastics that will never decompose, the flame retardant in the seats that has now contaminated the water (and been traced all the way to breast milk).
The advantage of the Prius is that it uses less gas, and requires less of the environmental damage associated with drilling, transporting, refining, and burning, not to mention the costs of the wars to keep it flowing. The Prius is a first step towards breaking the chain of dependence on oil, not the last step. Could the batteries be made more environmentally? Of course, and hopefully they will, but if no step is taken and we just continue to do what we've always done we will eventually run out of oil and be really stuck.
I'd love to see hydrogen cars on the road, but unfortunately they're just not here yet, nor is the fueling infrastructure.
Remember what the first cell phones looked like? A couple grand to buy a phone in a messenger bag that cost a buck a minute to use. Look at what we have barely two decades later. The Prius is the same thing. Eventually we will look back and laugh at it as an over priced under performer, but without it there will be no evolution to get there.
For the record, I don't own a Prius but an SUV that I only use locally because with over 200k on it I doubt it would survive a long trip, and I also have another car, but in reality I barely put any miles on either of them since I work from home and do most of my business locally.

By: SPG

SPG — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:27:25 +0000

I doubt it. This wasn't random in the choice of target. The Prius was singled out for attack because the attacker believes it stands for something. All these cranks being agitated by the anti health care reform nonsense are seething to act out. This is sadly not the last of this kind of nonsense we'll be seeing.

By: Timothyrslatteryjr

Timothyrslatteryjr — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 05:36:29 +0000

Look up info about where the materials to make the batteries for those prius cars are mined from. The strip mining operation has created one of the biggest wastelands in history with horrible acid rain, helping the environment my ass. The carbon emissions from making one prius and shipping it to the dealer is more alone than if you bought a used car and kept it mechanically sound and drove it for the rest of your life. Don’t think that electric cars are the answer. Look at hydrogen powered cars that is in my opinion the way to go for a green planet.

By: SPG

SPG — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 05:01:09 +0000

Did you notice that the article was in the Opinion and commentary section?
Did you notice that the stats are for 100,000 miles on a Prius vs 300,000 for a Hummer? How many Hummers are going to be around for 300k? None.
This story is so skewed it's ludicrous.

By: SPG

SPG — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:53:42 +0000

Because sarcasm is the best way to get the point across sometimes. It's a dangerous choice as there are often people who are just not smart enough to get it.

By: chopper_74

chopper_74 — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:21:14 +0000

apropos title.
I've feared this for a long time, the batteries are the lynch pin.
and I do mean lynch…

By: chopper_74

chopper_74 — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:15:46 +0000

ah, that makes sense, thanks.
Reading comprehension, if it was easy…
…everyone would do it.

By: devils advocate

devils advocate — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:06:31 +0000

Maybe the SUV people read this article. :)

http://clubs.ccsu.edu/Recorder/editorial/editor...

By: angelatini

angelatini — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 03:46:45 +0000

I asked to have my comments removed, Chopper. :) I didn't need to be attacked anymore by people who don't understand what I wrote, and I don't need to defend it, either.

That said, it sucks that these cars were harmed, and I am sorry I was misunderstood, and hopefully it wasn't by anyone that had their car window smashed.

By: chopper_74

chopper_74 — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 00:12:32 +0000

Clearly, as many have been removed.
But why Angelatini? She's a gem. ;-)

By: chopper_74

chopper_74 — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 00:11:04 +0000

yep, complete with talk shows and movie contracts.
Divisiveness is big money today. Shameful, but true.

By: chopper_74

chopper_74 — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 00:09:19 +0000

More likely than a random occurrence, imho.

By: seattlemedic7

seattlemedic7 — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:55:46 +0000

I was sober when I posted that

By: Silver

Silver — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:28:14 +0000

Young man – what have we learned about drinking and posting?

By: seattlemedic7

seattlemedic7 — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:34:14 +0000

It's not the size of the … um what are we talking about here silver… HAHAHAHAH

By: SPG

SPG — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:32:42 +0000

The comments on the newspaper sites are downright creepy. Even with a good set of hip waders I'm afraid to set foot in there.

By: SPG

SPG — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:28:21 +0000

We have the absolute bare minimum of a police response department. They don't actually patrol, just respond to 911 calls.
If they pulled a few of the cops from the day shift and put them out on a night patrol one night a week around 2am they'd put an end to all this car prowling crap in a month. Instead we have a half dozen cops covering for almost a million people and we wonder why so few of the criminals get caught.

By: NoraBell

NoraBell — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:34:15 +0000

Well, it's not realistic to think people can think like a criminal though. I don't even have a car, but I'm pretty sure my mom who does have a car isn't thinking like one. We have a police department. They're the ones who are supposed to protect us yet they're normally the first to get budget cuts. More cops with more resources, so my mom doesn't have to 'think like a criminal.'

By: 6_11_000

6_11_000 — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:58:57 +0000

NoraBell…..That's because you don't think like a criminal….none of us do. But we are now being told that we must start thinking like one in order to protect ourselves!! And that's really hard when one is brought up to be a responsible, law-abiding citizen!

By: 6_11_000

6_11_000 — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:52:54 +0000

Why does anyone even use sarcasm in the comments. Sarcasm is a demeaning form of response anyway. In fact, it's actually a negative, hostile kind of humor and can,in fact, be hurtful. Why use it? Why not just have a meaningful and positive discussion in the comments arena? You can see how misunderstood and unpleasant it is by the response to it! Please…..let's just be civil in our discussions!

By: MarieAntoinette

MarieAntoinette — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:18:20 +0000

Ummm…Skiggley, I know that any organization trying to be conservative about our resources (Sierra Club) or conservative about our freedoms (ACLU) are demonized by conservatives. But conservatively speaking, the SUV/McMansion torchers are usually Earth Firsters, whose members would just as much like to torch the Sierra Club for engaging in nonviolent, grassroots and political means rather than more direct actions. I have yet to meet a Sierra Club member who would advocate arson.

But, hey, it's your straw man, build it and destroy it at your leisure! I hope to see further Straw Man ™ models coming from your non-Union straw man factory in the future! Any Death Plan ideas? You could do some good work with that one.

By: boardbrown

boardbrown — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 04:42:38 +0000

I totally agree Ernie. In fact, I liked the old patina better.

By: MidWest

MidWest — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 04:15:42 +0000

…sounds like the Hatfields vs. McCoys…

Does anybody win?

By: MidWest

MidWest — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 04:09:43 +0000

Kitty cat,

Referenced Wade's 'cause WSI, Sportsman's (up North on 99), Seattle Gun, plus others are all RIP. SG treated me well...

Never bought from Wade's but it's the recognizable name these days. Has an odd vibe there, kind of gloomy, so the prices you reference make it sound even more appealing..!