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	<title>Comments on: Mayoral candidates address the &#8216;Missing Link&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: vestlandsjenta</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/10/21/mayoral-candidates-address-the-missing-link/comment-page-2/#comment-8211</link>
		<dc:creator>vestlandsjenta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That ethic you write of is also what is cheekily referred to as &quot;janteloven&quot;.  Yes, it&#039;s the protestant ethic, but it is also quite scandinavian. Wikipedia has the ten rules listed here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janteloven&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janteloven&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;Obviously not as harsh as it&#039;s written, but you get the idea!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That ethic you write of is also what is cheekily referred to as &#8220;janteloven&#8221;.  Yes, it&#39;s the protestant ethic, but it is also quite scandinavian. Wikipedia has the ten rules listed here: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janteloven" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janteloven</a> <br />Obviously not as harsh as it&#39;s written, but you get the idea!</p>
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		<title>By: ballardemican</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/10/21/mayoral-candidates-address-the-missing-link/comment-page-2/#comment-8210</link>
		<dc:creator>ballardemican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks -- interesting how cultural tendencies can endure for so long.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Those immigrants were Lutherans, right?  Then they had a protestant ethic -- making a lot of money is a sign of virtue, spending it is a sign of vice, doing it conspicuously is the sin of pride.  I like how Seattle still works hard and has less conspicuous consumption than most other similar cities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks &#8212; interesting how cultural tendencies can endure for so long.  </p>
<p>Those immigrants were Lutherans, right?  Then they had a protestant ethic &#8212; making a lot of money is a sign of virtue, spending it is a sign of vice, doing it conspicuously is the sin of pride.  I like how Seattle still works hard and has less conspicuous consumption than most other similar cities.</p>
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		<title>By: vestlandsjenta</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/10/21/mayoral-candidates-address-the-missing-link/comment-page-2/#comment-8232</link>
		<dc:creator>vestlandsjenta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 06:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cycling in crosswalks is legal in many of the cities I have lived in  so it&#039;s not just Seattle.  It seems odd (and sometimes dangerous) when you are on two feet and not two wheels, but it makes sense in the case of looking at weaker road users (cyclists) versus cars - a right of way to the smallest and most vulnerable user. That said, v. important to look out for pedestrians!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cycling in crosswalks is legal in many of the cities I have lived in  so it&#39;s not just Seattle.  It seems odd (and sometimes dangerous) when you are on two feet and not two wheels, but it makes sense in the case of looking at weaker road users (cyclists) versus cars &#8211; a right of way to the smallest and most vulnerable user. That said, v. important to look out for pedestrians!</p>
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		<title>By: vestlandsjenta</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/10/21/mayoral-candidates-address-the-missing-link/comment-page-2/#comment-8209</link>
		<dc:creator>vestlandsjenta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 06:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heavy wave of immigration from Nordic lands in the early-1900&#039;s coincided with the development of Ballard. It was a happy collision of immigration and development. The Scandinavians were attracted to Ballard for the timber-industry (shingles, lumber, etc...) and maritime industries. There is still a lot of that in Ballard as we Ballardites know, and it is tied a lot in part to working-class, egalitarian settlement of the area (where walking and being outside are very popular pedestrian activities, as they continue to be now, and have so little to do with yuppies!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heavy wave of immigration from Nordic lands in the early-1900&#39;s coincided with the development of Ballard. It was a happy collision of immigration and development. The Scandinavians were attracted to Ballard for the timber-industry (shingles, lumber, etc&#8230;) and maritime industries. There is still a lot of that in Ballard as we Ballardites know, and it is tied a lot in part to working-class, egalitarian settlement of the area (where walking and being outside are very popular pedestrian activities, as they continue to be now, and have so little to do with yuppies!)</p>
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		<title>By: SPG</title>
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		<dc:creator>SPG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t speak to the historical/racial aspect of your question, but Seattle&#039;s neighborhoods are always being stereotyped, especially when it&#039;s time for development. Take the Fremont example. When it was cheap to live there a lot of artists moved in and then when values spiked and forced the artists out they&#039;ve continued to market it as &quot;Funky Fremont&quot; and talk about the artists who don&#039;t live there anymore. Outside of the Solstice Parade, I don&#039;t think there&#039;s very much of the old art scene surviving there, yet it will forever be marketed this way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#39;t speak to the historical/racial aspect of your question, but Seattle&#39;s neighborhoods are always being stereotyped, especially when it&#39;s time for development. Take the Fremont example. When it was cheap to live there a lot of artists moved in and then when values spiked and forced the artists out they&#39;ve continued to market it as &#8220;Funky Fremont&#8221; and talk about the artists who don&#39;t live there anymore. Outside of the Solstice Parade, I don&#39;t think there&#39;s very much of the old art scene surviving there, yet it will forever be marketed this way.</p>
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		<title>By: bbb1</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/10/21/mayoral-candidates-address-the-missing-link/comment-page-2/#comment-8254</link>
		<dc:creator>bbb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks! I&#039;m on it.</description>
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		<title>By: ballardemican</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/10/21/mayoral-candidates-address-the-missing-link/comment-page-2/#comment-8207</link>
		<dc:creator>ballardemican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey you seem like a local Scando, so just a simple (and neutral -- I&#039;m just curious) question if you get back to to this.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I read somewhere that Ballard was never populated by more than 25% people of Scanner descent, and today far fewer, yet it seems like the history is completely tied to Scandinavians.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why is this? (if it is true -- the numbers could very well be wrong)  Did the Scandos drive the culture and economy and other ethnicities just came along for the ride?  Were other group more diffuse?  Is there any significant history in Ballard that highlights non-Scando ethnicities?  Do people just like to identify Scando?  I&#039;ve got a buddy who is 1/2 German and 1/4 Swedish, but he totally identifies as being of Swedish stock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey you seem like a local Scando, so just a simple (and neutral &#8212; I&#39;m just curious) question if you get back to to this.</p>
<p>I read somewhere that Ballard was never populated by more than 25% people of Scanner descent, and today far fewer, yet it seems like the history is completely tied to Scandinavians.</p>
<p>Why is this? (if it is true &#8212; the numbers could very well be wrong)  Did the Scandos drive the culture and economy and other ethnicities just came along for the ride?  Were other group more diffuse?  Is there any significant history in Ballard that highlights non-Scando ethnicities?  Do people just like to identify Scando?  I&#39;ve got a buddy who is 1/2 German and 1/4 Swedish, but he totally identifies as being of Swedish stock.</p>
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		<title>By: GTS</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/10/21/mayoral-candidates-address-the-missing-link/comment-page-2/#comment-8253</link>
		<dc:creator>GTS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best. Movie Ever. I dare you to watch it and not want to to buy a red swingline stapler.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bob Slydell &quot;Peter, you&#039;ve been missing a lot of work.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Peter Gibbons &quot;I wouldn&#039;t say I&#039;ve been &#039;missing&#039; it&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best. Movie Ever. I dare you to watch it and not want to to buy a red swingline stapler.</p>
<p>Bob Slydell &#8220;Peter, you&#39;ve been missing a lot of work.&#8221;</p>
<p>Peter Gibbons &#8220;I wouldn&#39;t say I&#39;ve been &#39;missing&#39; it&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: bbb1</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/10/21/mayoral-candidates-address-the-missing-link/comment-page-2/#comment-8252</link>
		<dc:creator>bbb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A TV show? A webcast? Or is it one of those newfangled DVD things I&#039;ve heard so much about......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A TV show? A webcast? Or is it one of those newfangled DVD things I&#39;ve heard so much about&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Black_Sheep</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/10/21/mayoral-candidates-address-the-missing-link/comment-page-2/#comment-8251</link>
		<dc:creator>Black_Sheep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please don&#039;t tell me you&#039;ve never seen Office Space.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Watch it.  Now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please don&#39;t tell me you&#39;ve never seen Office Space.</p>
<p>Watch it.  Now.</p>
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		<title>By: bbb1</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/10/21/mayoral-candidates-address-the-missing-link/comment-page-2/#comment-8250</link>
		<dc:creator>bbb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell us more.... Peter Gibbons? Office Space??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell us more&#8230;. Peter Gibbons? Office Space??</p>
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		<title>By: bbb1</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/10/21/mayoral-candidates-address-the-missing-link/comment-page-2/#comment-8240</link>
		<dc:creator>bbb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Voila!! This is what I&#039;ve been waiting 10 yrs for - a sugar daddy to fund this -- there are bucketloads of them in Seattle...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;lolajean - can you start investigating??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Voila!! This is what I&#39;ve been waiting 10 yrs for &#8211; a sugar daddy to fund this &#8212; there are bucketloads of them in Seattle&#8230;</p>
<p>lolajean &#8211; can you start investigating??</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy Ballgame</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/10/21/mayoral-candidates-address-the-missing-link/comment-page-2/#comment-8255</link>
		<dc:creator>Teddy Ballgame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cyclists are quite crafty.  They&#039;ll figure out a way to get from point A to point B while ignoring all cars and pedestrians.  I&#039;m sure they can manage this &quot;missing link&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cyclists are quite crafty.  They&#39;ll figure out a way to get from point A to point B while ignoring all cars and pedestrians.  I&#39;m sure they can manage this &#8220;missing link&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: GTS</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/10/21/mayoral-candidates-address-the-missing-link/comment-page-2/#comment-8249</link>
		<dc:creator>GTS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 04:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not everyone thinks of area as a &quot;Missing Link&quot; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the words of Peter Gibbons in Office Space &quot;I wouldn&#039;t say I&#039;ve been &quot;missing&#039;&quot; it&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not everyone thinks of area as a &#8220;Missing Link&#8221; </p>
<p>In the words of Peter Gibbons in Office Space &#8220;I wouldn&#39;t say I&#39;ve been &#8220;missing&#39;&#8221; it&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ernie_98107</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/10/21/mayoral-candidates-address-the-missing-link/comment-page-2/#comment-8248</link>
		<dc:creator>Ernie_98107</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 04:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A pink sparkley pony unicorn wearing green spandex that farts fairy dust!</description>
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		<title>By: Bangoskank</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/10/21/mayoral-candidates-address-the-missing-link/comment-page-2/#comment-8247</link>
		<dc:creator>Bangoskank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 04:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SeaSpider</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/10/21/mayoral-candidates-address-the-missing-link/comment-page-2/#comment-8230</link>
		<dc:creator>SeaSpider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 03:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, it&#039;s not a solution but allow cyclists to make a left onto Market is. Having traffic signs which only apply to certain users is completely legal (for example signs that allow buses to travel straight in a designated right turn lane).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You and I might know it&#039;s the law but most people don&#039;t. I do think it&#039;s a dumb law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, it&#39;s not a solution but allow cyclists to make a left onto Market is. Having traffic signs which only apply to certain users is completely legal (for example signs that allow buses to travel straight in a designated right turn lane).</p>
<p>You and I might know it&#39;s the law but most people don&#39;t. I do think it&#39;s a dumb law.</p>
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		<title>By: lolajean</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/10/21/mayoral-candidates-address-the-missing-link/comment-page-2/#comment-8239</link>
		<dc:creator>lolajean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 03:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe we should get Paul Allen to finish the trail!</description>
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		<title>By: Ballardwatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ballardwatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 03:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those sidewalks can be pretty crowded.  Suggesting that people on bikes use Ballard Ave sidewalks is a little ridiculous when the street is packed with pedestrians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those sidewalks can be pretty crowded.  Suggesting that people on bikes use Ballard Ave sidewalks is a little ridiculous when the street is packed with pedestrians.</p>
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		<title>By: Ernie_98107</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ernie_98107</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 03:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it&#039;s the law, I just don&#039;t think it&#039;s a solution.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;IMHO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it&#39;s the law, I just don&#39;t think it&#39;s a solution.</p>
<p>IMHO</p>
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		<title>By: SeaSpider</title>
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		<dc:creator>SeaSpider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 03:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SeaSpider</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/10/21/mayoral-candidates-address-the-missing-link/comment-page-2/#comment-8228</link>
		<dc:creator>SeaSpider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 03:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Seriously? everyone using the trail can just ride down the sidewalk in a busy shopping district? I don&#039;t think so.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Seriously and you not thinking so doesn&#039;t make it right. I agree it&#039;s stupid but it&#039;s still the law whether you like it or not. I suggest you try reading section 11.44.120 of the Seattle Traffic Code (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.seattle.gov/transportation/bikecode.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.seattle.gov/transportation/bikecode.htm&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;The whole idea that trucks can&#039;t cross the trail without someone getting hurt is ridiculous.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I somewhat agree. I do think the danger is being overstated by some. However, I do think it would be safer to simply have the BG go down Ballard to make it a non-issue. I&#039;ve ridden the stretch of the BG through Frelard and I&#039;ve seen a few near misses involving bikes and trucks. Half the time it was because cyclists ran a stop sign but the other half were trucks running stop signs. Doesn&#039;t help that the signage along that stretch is inconsistent - some intersections it&#039;s the cyclists who have a stop sign, others it&#039;s the trucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Seriously? everyone using the trail can just ride down the sidewalk in a busy shopping district? I don&#39;t think so.&#8221;</p>
<p>Seriously and you not thinking so doesn&#39;t make it right. I agree it&#39;s stupid but it&#39;s still the law whether you like it or not. I suggest you try reading section 11.44.120 of the Seattle Traffic Code (<a href="http://www.seattle.gov/transportation/bikecode.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.seattle.gov/transportation/bikecode.htm</a>)</p>
<p>&#8220;The whole idea that trucks can&#39;t cross the trail without someone getting hurt is ridiculous.&#8221;</p>
<p>I somewhat agree. I do think the danger is being overstated by some. However, I do think it would be safer to simply have the BG go down Ballard to make it a non-issue. I&#39;ve ridden the stretch of the BG through Frelard and I&#39;ve seen a few near misses involving bikes and trucks. Half the time it was because cyclists ran a stop sign but the other half were trucks running stop signs. Doesn&#39;t help that the signage along that stretch is inconsistent &#8211; some intersections it&#39;s the cyclists who have a stop sign, others it&#39;s the trucks.</p>
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		<title>By: stopthebuzz</title>
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		<dc:creator>stopthebuzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 03:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, your response was A++!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, your response was A++!  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Ernie_98107</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/10/21/mayoral-candidates-address-the-missing-link/comment-page-2/#comment-8227</link>
		<dc:creator>Ernie_98107</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously? everyone using the trail can just ride down the sidewalk in a busy shopping district? I don&#039;t think so.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The city needs to just win the lawsuit, and build the f&#039;n trail along shilshole. After it is all said and done all the missing link opponents will just change their diapers, grab another cup o&#039; joe, and  go back to work. Hopefully the next Mayor can make this happen.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;BTW, did you know that every day every one of of SBS&amp;G&#039; s trucks crosses the trail down in Frelard where they park the trucks. The whole idea that trucks can&#039;t cross the trail without someone getting hurt is ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously? everyone using the trail can just ride down the sidewalk in a busy shopping district? I don&#39;t think so.</p>
<p>The city needs to just win the lawsuit, and build the f&#39;n trail along shilshole. After it is all said and done all the missing link opponents will just change their diapers, grab another cup o&#39; joe, and  go back to work. Hopefully the next Mayor can make this happen.</p>
<p>BTW, did you know that every day every one of of SBS&#038;G&#39; s trucks crosses the trail down in Frelard where they park the trucks. The whole idea that trucks can&#39;t cross the trail without someone getting hurt is ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Edog</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/10/21/mayoral-candidates-address-the-missing-link/comment-page-2/#comment-8245</link>
		<dc:creator>Edog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Pink Sparkley Pony!</description>
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		<title>By: vestlandsjenta</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/10/21/mayoral-candidates-address-the-missing-link/comment-page-2/#comment-8213</link>
		<dc:creator>vestlandsjenta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point, stopthebuzz. The issue is overdone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, stopthebuzz. The issue is overdone.</p>
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		<title>By: phinneyneighbor</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/10/21/mayoral-candidates-address-the-missing-link/comment-page-2/#comment-8244</link>
		<dc:creator>phinneyneighbor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A sparkley pony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A sparkley pony.</p>
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		<title>By: JulianDavies</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/10/21/mayoral-candidates-address-the-missing-link/comment-page-2/#comment-8223</link>
		<dc:creator>JulianDavies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, then, I misread you - things were sounding very VC in your tone ...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sounds like we agree on most things here (including MADSEN&#039;s). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But the alternate routes you suggest work as safer streets to ride on (I use them too), but the Missing Link is a designed and funded connection for a multi-use trail that should connect, IMHO, rather than dump people out on streets with lots of congested intersections to negotiate. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for the interim route, the 17th/Ballard/Vernon jog is too circuitous for most. The confident cyclists will stay on Shilshole, and the rest of will muddle along as we have been. Smart infrastructure makes it faster and more convenient to ride bikes, not less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, then, I misread you &#8211; things were sounding very VC in your tone &#8230;</p>
<p>Sounds like we agree on most things here (including MADSEN&#39;s). </p>
<p>But the alternate routes you suggest work as safer streets to ride on (I use them too), but the Missing Link is a designed and funded connection for a multi-use trail that should connect, IMHO, rather than dump people out on streets with lots of congested intersections to negotiate. </p>
<p>As for the interim route, the 17th/Ballard/Vernon jog is too circuitous for most. The confident cyclists will stay on Shilshole, and the rest of will muddle along as we have been. Smart infrastructure makes it faster and more convenient to ride bikes, not less.</p>
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		<title>By: SPG</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/10/21/mayoral-candidates-address-the-missing-link/comment-page-1/#comment-8243</link>
		<dc:creator>SPG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A pony.</description>
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		<title>By: SeaSpider</title>
		<link>http://www.myballard.com/2009/10/21/mayoral-candidates-address-the-missing-link/comment-page-1/#comment-8222</link>
		<dc:creator>SeaSpider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, you don&#039;t get it. When did I say trails were evil? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m a huge fan of multi-use trails, bicycle boulevards, city bikes, bakfiets, etc. I&#039;d also love to see Seattle put in separate, dedicated bike lanes like they have in some European cities. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However I&#039;m also a realist and know that&#039;s never going to happen for a whole lot of fiscal, cultural and political reasons. Instead we need to put trails in where they can be accommodated. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the case of the Missing Link they can route the trail along Shilshole and have to deal with the hazard of the tracks and truck traffic or they can chose to re-route the trail a few blocks and avoid the tracks and trucks. If you&#039;re trying to get everyday people out on bikes and make cycling safer - and have a limited budget - doesn&#039;t that make more sense? In many ways the interim route seems better than the final route as it avoids all the trucks on Shilsole. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When I get my Madsen I won&#039;t try crossing the tracks with my kid in back, I&#039;ll detour a block and take the safer route. I&#039;ll also ride my Madsen down 28th because it&#039;s quieter and has far fewer cars than riding on 24th, even with the bike lane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, you don&#39;t get it. When did I say trails were evil? </p>
<p>I&#39;m a huge fan of multi-use trails, bicycle boulevards, city bikes, bakfiets, etc. I&#39;d also love to see Seattle put in separate, dedicated bike lanes like they have in some European cities. </p>
<p>However I&#39;m also a realist and know that&#39;s never going to happen for a whole lot of fiscal, cultural and political reasons. Instead we need to put trails in where they can be accommodated. </p>
<p>In the case of the Missing Link they can route the trail along Shilshole and have to deal with the hazard of the tracks and truck traffic or they can chose to re-route the trail a few blocks and avoid the tracks and trucks. If you&#39;re trying to get everyday people out on bikes and make cycling safer &#8211; and have a limited budget &#8211; doesn&#39;t that make more sense? In many ways the interim route seems better than the final route as it avoids all the trucks on Shilsole. </p>
<p>When I get my Madsen I won&#39;t try crossing the tracks with my kid in back, I&#39;ll detour a block and take the safer route. I&#39;ll also ride my Madsen down 28th because it&#39;s quieter and has far fewer cars than riding on 24th, even with the bike lane.</p>
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