New school maps show minor Ballard changes

The new Seattle School boundary maps have been released with several changes affecting Ballard families. The most-anticipated change is the boundary for Ballard High School (see new map): the northern line remains NW 85th St., but the eastern line has shifted from Aurora Ave. to Greenwood Ave. — and a section around Green Lake has been moved to Roosevelt High.

The new map is above. The old map is below.

“The changes reflect balancing capacity at north‐end schools, preserving capacity at Ballard to accommodate a projected increase in student enrollment, and enabling more students to walk to Roosevelt,” Seattle Schools explained in this .pdf document posted this evening. “Changes requested but unable to be made include extending the northern boundary beyond NW 85th St., because it would have put Ballard over its functional capacity.”

There’s also a small change to the boundaries for both Whittier Elementary School and Whitman Middle School (see new map). The new map is above, the old map is below. The southern boundary, including for Loyal Heights Elementary, has been shifted just a bit.

“The changes reflect community desires to have the Whittier attendance area reflect more closely its surrounding neighborhoods and enable more students to walk to elementary schools within this attendance area,” Seattle Schools said. “The changes also reflect more recent 2009‐10 data; the proposed boundaries for this attendance area were based on older 2008‐09 data available at the time. These data show an increase in the growth for the Greenwood, Loyal Heights, and Whittier attendance area; boundaries were adjusted to accommodate this growth.” Let us know your reactions in comments below…

October 14th: Ballard residents speak out about boundary maps

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gooner
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gooner

i was expecting the 85th border to go a little north to be honest….

Freddie
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Freddie

Thank you Supreme Court! Sanity has returned.

I, for one, welcome our new Queen Anne and Magnolia overlords.

SeaSpider
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SeaSpider

Good thing I was planning on sending my kids to private school! Stupid to force my child to be bused 4 miles when Ballard is within walking distance.

Real question is why is there no discussion of opening a new school in the Queen Anne/Magnolia/South Lake Union area? Oh yeah, I forgot that this is Seattle – the city that can't seem to plan more than 6 months into the future!

anonymous
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anonymous

Thank God for private schools and not having to deal with silly Public School systems.

Boatgeek
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Boatgeek

If they want to open another school, they'll have to close one somewhere else. There just aren't enough students in the long term to open another school. We don't have to like it, but that's the way it is, unless vast numbers of students show up from private school. If you want to try to make a trade between Lincoln (currently an interim site) and another high school in West or South Seattle, go for it.

Sitting in the Board meeting, it sounds like the District staff assumed that the whole boundary from Puget Sound to Greenwood would have to move north in lockstep, rather than moving some areas north and leaving others at 85th. If there's not space to move the whole boundary north, you could at least transfer North Beach, the area most affected by transportation to Ingraham.

Boatgeek
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Boatgeek

If you want to get North Beach placed into the Ballard zone, you should sign the petition here: http://www.gopetition.com/online/31858.html

With enough outcry, there may be some changes made.

raisedbed
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raisedbed

Did the West Woodland southern cutoff drop too? It looks like it on the map…

gooner
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gooner

yes, God loves private schools and he created them for you.

Ballardmom
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Ballardmom

Whooops – the new map just knocked us out of our previous reference school boundary. Makes me glad our daughter doesn't have a younger sibling because it'd be a pain to have the kids assigned to two different schools. Otherwise, the school whose reference area we are now in is a perfectly fine school too. It's just going to be hard for families with two kids who may not be able to grandfather younger siblings into the same school. I hope they do grandfather in younger siblings but I'm not confident they will.

Ballardite
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Ballardite

Based on feedback that Whittier folks have already been vocal about, they are going to fight really hard to get the (new and improved!) Southern border extended to 65th. I also think the district will agree to grandfather in for the first 1-3 years. No proof for these premonitions. Just positive thinking.

Ballard_Curmudgeon
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Ballard_Curmudgeon

Whereas I think it is hard to make a legal case about school boundaries. I think grandfathering is probably actionable. I expect the SPS lawyers to step in and inject a bit of common sense into the school board.

For SPS to expect that two siblings would be forced to go to two seperate grade schools is ridiculous.

BallardGrad92
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BallardGrad92

Well, it may be ridiculous, but it certainly has happened in the past. Back in the busing days Seattle schools used to be divided K-3, 4-6, 7-8, and 9-12. My brother and I were just far enough in age that we never attended the same school.

petsfriend
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petsfriend

Glad they moved that little NE Greenlake portion out of Ballard. It didn't make sense to have just that small corner in Ballard. Moving the eastern boundary to Greenwood was a good move.

SeaSpider
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SeaSpider

Actually we'd send our kid to a secular school.

DevStar
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DevStar

And we should ensure that it doesn't happen in the future. While it may not be life and death two have small children at different schools, it really is simply unnecessary. It serves no purpose except to make the lives of some parents more difficult.

DevStar
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DevStar

I would be in support of a new lawsuit against the Seattle Public Schools for the current map. I think many would agree that the current map is simply an attempt to get affluent (white?) students to attend Ballard.

SCOTUS previously struck down the SPS attempt to get racial diversity via tiebreaker. Now they can strike down SPS's attempt to get economic homogeneity via boundary maps.

Theravadist
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Theravadist

On the wrong side of 85th I assume? How about this, I'll sell my house to you south of 85th and we can see how quickly your opinion changes.

DevStar
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DevStar

My opinion wouldn't change at all. I'm not sure why you'd come to such an odd assumption that it would. And why would I want to buy your house? At the end of the day a lawsuit, private school, and home schooling are all more feasible options than moving to attend a specific high school.

And note, if I did move, why wouldn't I move closer to Ingraham than to Ballard HS? Although if I did move up North by Ingraham the new maps would probably assign me to West Seattle HS.

A total lottery system would be preferable in that all students would have no inherent advantage over other students in where they went to school — and thus their commute.

Theravadist
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Theravadist

“total lottery system would be preferable”

Preferable to you, you mean, because you are on the wrong side of the line.

Hey, if I was on the wrong side of the line, like you, I would try to suggest that 'community schools' are racist.

DevStar
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DevStar

Can you argue against the fact that a total lottery system is less discriminatory than pseudo-community schools? I'm sure you won't take up this argument seriously. So I guess we all have our day in our court :-)

phinneynotballard
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phinneynotballard

No, but a lottery is pretty much the most costly and least efficient way to assign a school. I thought we were done trying to assign schools based on integration and potential discrimination? What makes sending kids to schools that are near them (albeit, not necessarily the very closest, because that doesn't always work based on the location of our schools) “pseudo?” I think it just makes sense period.

Because Ingraham is on the very northern border of our city limits, the boundary for its enrollment simply has to be lower than everyone would like. I don't understand why people don't understand that? Can you not read a map?

You won't have your day in court; your claims are ridiculous and exactly what is wrong with Seattle: a senseless combination of NIMBYism and PC nonsense. You want things to work in your favor and will use a false charge like discrimination to try and get your way.

And btw, what motive does SPS have to make Ballard more “white” or “affluent.” That doesn't make any sense.

Magnoleum
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And the cause of action would arise under what federal statute? Really, now, what you have to remember is that the District's discretionary power to adopt an assignment policy is almost boundless. The District could assign everyone to schools completely at random without violating any provision of state or federal law. The problem with the racial tiebreaker was that it based assignment decisions explicitly (and individually) upon race, which is a “suspect classification” under Fourteenth Amendment Equal Protection Clause analysis. So, when the District adopts a neighborhood assignment policy, you'll have to show how that policy violates some similar federal legal norm if you're going to set that aside on Equal Protection or other grounds. What possible legal norm could it violate? No school district has ever been found to violate the Equal Protection Clause simply by assigning kids to neighborhood schools unless the District had a prior history of de jure segregation and the policy was found to be an attempt to resegregate. Even if the policy were an attempt to “get economic homogeneity” as you suggest (and that would be a very difficult–most likely impossible– proposition to prove), that wouldn't clearly violate any federal constitutional standard, and since… Read more »

Magnoleum
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Magnoleum

…and you're the one arguing for a “total lottery” system elsewhere in this thread….go figure…

Theravadist
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Theravadist

How is it discriminatory? Last time I checked, anyone can buy a house in BHS boundries.

Ballardcrab
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Ballardcrab

So students as far south as Denny go to Ballard but students living on 86th can't? Something is wrong with this picture.