Coalition reaching out to churches to help ‘homeless car campers’

The Ballard Homes for All Coalition is reaching out to dozens of churches to help “homeless car campers” around the neighborhood.

Back in 2008, the coalition proposed a one-year pilot project for one congregation to host a handful of people, providing them with a place to park and access to hygiene facilities. During the 2008 Sustainable Ballard Festival unveiled the hygiene station above. “That project never got off the ground unfortunately for a variety of reasons though we did a lot of work around developing guidelines for operation of the site, a screening checklist, resident/host agreements, acquiring funding, and, of course, constructing the mobile shower,” Jean Darsie the chair of the coalition tells us.

Now the coalition is proposing that multiple churches help the car campers. “We are taking a new direction this time and reaching out to multiple congregations in Ballard, asking them to take in one, maybe, two vehicles onto their land and offering a level of support to them based on the congregation’s ability or willingness to provide,” Darsie says.

The Ballard Homes for All Coalition is holding a community meeting on Thursday evening at 7 p.m. at the Crown Hill United Methodist Church (8500 14th Ave NW) to discuss this idea. Speakers at the meeting will be Jean Darsie, John Skans from Crown Hill Methodist Church and Sally Kinney from the Interfaith Task Force on Homelessness. For more information you can contact Darsie at nwcitizen@comcast.net.

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Sounds great! Nice way to put words into action. Keep up the good work!

Had Enough
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Had Enough

Really?! I’m sorry I cannot support the “Bleeding Hearts” of Ballard anymore. Ballard has a serious vagrant/homeless/bum/street person problem and by opening up “land” or “space” to allow people to stay there is not a good idea. Even though it is being done already. All it does is send a message to everyone that Ballard is a place to come because you are welcomed with open arms. Here’s an idea, show your true Christian values and open your front door to these people…let them park in your driveway and stay in your homes, eat your food, use your bathroom, be exposed to your children…put your beliefs into action. I bet the majority of people wouldnt dare open their home to someone. Shelter’s and agency’s exist for this very reason as do social programs to help individuals get back on their feet and change their lives for the better, let those Social service programs that the Tax Payers fund do what they are supposed to do and if it’s not working then hold those who run them accountable for not doing their job. Ballard is NOT and SHOULD NOT be “the Statue of Liberty” for Seattle ring out: “Give me your… Read more »

Shane Dillon
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Shane Dillon

Please no!
Ballard can’t afford to support more, and more will come if we provide more services for the homeless.
People flock to places if the service is there. Statistics show for example if you open a methadone clinic or needle exchange in an area, Heroin addicts from elsewhere move into the area.

I am all for helping the Ballard homeless in someway, but this is too much. I am tired of the homeless shelters, compass housing, tent city etc.

If a church wants to help, then house or give a job to just one of the unfortunate ballard residents on the street until they can get on their feet.

All doing the above will do will make Church carparks (that are almost all in residential areas) untidy and possible drunks roaming around. I can also predict more pan-handling too.

Ballard-ite
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Ballard-ite

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I have these “residents” park in front of my house from time to time…usually in 72 hour blocks since that is the legal timeframe. It’s nice when I have guests over that they have to park behind the motorhome that is sitting there. Without fail, they leave garbage, and/or put their garbage my my cans (sometimes the wrong can so I need to transfer it). I’ve had one ask me if they could “plug in”..meaning run an extension cord to an outlet. Really? They then usually walk to the nearby Starbucks to use the bathrooms.

Why would we create a program to attract MORE of that into the neighborhood? What is the benefit of it?

BumsAreBums
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BumsAreBums

Please consider donating beat up cars to the bums in Seattle and surrounding neighborhoods so they can camp out in Ballard and we can rid Seattle, Queen Anne, Green Lake and Magnolia of bums.

Thank you Ballard for welcoming our bums, druggies and winos.

Steve
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Steve

No on this too. I’m all for helping people out, but subsidizing and encouraging the hobo life style is a bit too much. I’ve had atent city in my neighborhood and had some negative experiences with it. This owuld just be the same on a smaller scale…

Tangent
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Tangent

Be prepared to be shouted down or made to feel like YOU are the problem at this meeting on Thursday … I’ve been to a couple of these meetings at churches and they’re a joke. Most neighbors expressing concern about this were not being listened to. The whole thing seemed like the decision had already been made and they were only having a community meeting on the matter because they felt compelled to.

I truly hope this isn’t more of the same.

Shane Dillon
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Shane Dillon

Perhaps someone could have a table outside to collect signatures against this idea.

I can’t make this Thursday unfortunately.

I did hand out leaflets/flyers expressing concerns against the shelter at Old Redeemers which eventually worked in getting it closed.

Would someone like to step forward and volunteer to collect signatures outside of the meeting area?

nwcitizen
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nwcitizen

This is an informational meeting. Please come prepared to listen. There will be time for Q&A at the end of the meeting.

The decision whether to participate will be up to individual church congregations.

Shane Dillon
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Shane Dillon

To be honest nwcitizen I doubt it will fall down to the congregation. Remember last year when Our Redeemers voted on the shelter? The congregation voted overwealmingly (95%) to not have it (and so did the local residents) and the pastor (Steve Grumm) said he was going ahead with it any way. It made the whole voting system a joke.

Usually when it is suggested that the individual church is legally and financially responsible, they back down.

Ballard-ite
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Ballard-ite

If churches do go along with this, I hope they COMMUNICATE openly about it to their immediate neighbors.

My parents live by Our Redeemers. When they hosted a tent city, we found out about it on the news. Nice job being neighborly Our Redeemers.

Had Enough
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Had Enough

Again, rather than fill our streets with cars, vans, motor homes, tents, and any other form of shelter…the Churches should tell their Congregations to open their home’s to these people.

Why should the neighborhoods be made to deal with it? Are the cars going to be moved every 72 hours per City of Seattle Law? I doubt it! Who will be responsible for keeping the streets and lots clean, the Church, the people living in their cars, the neighboring home-owner’s? What will happen when you tell people it’s time to move on?

Open your front door, let them stay in your house, eat your food, use your bathroom, be around your family, your children, trust them in your home while you’re at work. Don’t burden the rest of us with the sight, smell, potential problems that come from this!

nwcitizen
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nwcitizen

The proposal is for off-street parking on church property which is the prerogative of the church.

We will be presenting information and a summary of the Federal and State legislation underpinning the use to which a religious organization may put their property.

Any agreement between the church and the vehicle resident is between those two parties.

That said, churches in general are very sensitive to minimizing the impact of what they do as part of their mission on their neighbors.

zipper
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zipper

If churches want to be good neighbors, they can start by voluntarily paying property taxes like the rest of us in the hood.

That being said, I have no problem with this and I hope they are successful in their mission. Just please, a little screening, okay? The drunky-yelling-joes parked in my hood can keep on trekking outta and out to the hinter lands. Of course the beer store will be a bit far…

Shane Dillon
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Shane Dillon

‘The proposal is for off-street parking on church property which is the prerogative of the church. ‘

It may be their prerogative, but remember the last shelter housed the Greenwood arsonist and a level III sex offender. Often the screening by churches fails to catch these undesireables. The church must accept full responsibility and police anything they do.

Simply opening up their carparks is not enough.

Had Enough
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Had Enough

The “agreement” may be between the Church and vehicle but the Church cannot put the Public at risk. The Church as an organization is not above the Municipal Laws when public safety is concerned. Will the Church take full responsibility for any problem that may occur any Law broken, any mess made? I somehow doubt it! All that will happen from this is a “Welcome” mat will be rolled out for all to come to Ballard and camp out.

motorrad
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motorrad

I would like to sign up for a camping spot. It would be a great help if I don’t have to pay rent for the next 5 months so I can put that toward a down payment on a home next winter. Since I am out of town so much it would be optimal to live in the van while in town. Make sure I get a spot with wi-fi. Thanks.

clem
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clem

these churches mean well, i’m sure, but don’t they realize how tired of this stuff the ballard citizens are? we really don’t want more homeless people camping out here. is that so wrong?

kim
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kim

nwcitizen-

blah, blah, blah……

Bark more, Wag less
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Bark more, Wag less

Yeah, the Hobo Crapper is back!

Bark more, Wag less
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Bark more, Wag less

Or should we call it the Bum-let?

BPNWJFSHAFSJ
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BPNWJFSHAFSJ

“churches in general are very sensitive to minimizing the impact of what they do as part of their mission on their neighbors.”

Ah yes, as we all remember so well with the level 3 child sex sexual predator they let stay at Redeemer’s Lutheran Church who wasn’t removed until the neighbors investigated and told the church.

kirst
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kirst

it’s you whining, privileged, arrogant, intolerant, and narrow-minded hypocrites who are afraid of anyone not wearing REI or Gap and driving a Subaru who “keep Ballard friendly.”
Thanks for that.

Your Fed Up Neighbor
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Your Fed Up Neighbor

The rape of Ballard continues.

Bark more, Wag less
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Bark more, Wag less

Other possible names. Please vote and suggest your own:

The Bum Bomber
The Vagralet
The Hobolet
The Free Range Crapper
The Bumcrapper
The Malt Liquor Recycler
The Shooting-up Hut
The …..