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Councilmember O’Brien to host Health and Public Safety Forum at Nordic Heritage Museum

Posted by Danielle Anthony-Goodwin on September 26th, 2016

Councilmember Mike O’Brien (District 6, Northwest Seattle) will host a community forum this Thursday evening, September 29, at the Nordic Heritage Museum (3014 NW 67th St) from 6 p.m. – 8 p.m.

Councilmember O’Brien will reconvene neighbors and community members to discuss how the City can move forward to implement solutions to public health and safety concerns in District 6 during the City Council’s budget process.

Attendees will be provided with an overview of the proposed solutions and their budget implications. Attendees will then convene in small work groups and provide feedback and input on the proposals and provide additional ideas.

Many of the solutions were proposed by community at the July 29 Safe and Healthy Communities Public Forum in Ballard.

All are welcome to attend the event.

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50 reader comments so far ↓

  • 1 Victoria McCormick // Sep 26, 2016 at 4:51 pm

    Dear Administrators :
    Please be prepared for alit of people who need to speak about the homelessNess crisis!
    Cordially,
    Ms. McCormick

  • 2 guesty // Sep 26, 2016 at 9:16 pm

    let me guess – this means “what else we need to do for the junkies and career homeless”.

  • 3 Bryce // Sep 26, 2016 at 10:21 pm

    Mike O’Brien hosting public safety forums is a bad joke at this point in his term. He’s never once expressed any genuine concern or understanding of actual public safety problems. He distances himself from the issue and if forced to comment inserts vague platitudes that amount to doing nothing.

  • 4 Victoria McCormick // Sep 27, 2016 at 12:30 am

    Dear Guesty,
    Take your own inventory please. Those who judge will be judged. You are part of the problem or you are part of the solution!
    Cordially,
    VMC

  • 5 Orcaspring // Sep 27, 2016 at 6:18 am

    O’Brien’s format for seeking solutions is a waste of time. Let me say that again. It is a waste of time. He gathers people together (many of whom are paid to be there from the “homeless-industrial complex) in small groups, lead by moderators who guide the discussion in the way O’Brien wants it to go. The moderators report out. His staff distills and perhaps distorts the result. He then announces the results, with further narrowing comments to fit his own personal agenda.

    Yep. This is a waste of time. It will bring no real solutions to the table bettering the health and safety of Ballard residents. And, as for originality of the solutions proposed. Well, they have been on the table for months and even years in some cases. Number 1 on my list are make Ballard Commons safe and clean for all, with no vagrants on it. Number 2 – no street panhandlers or harassers on Market St. Number 3 – no campers next to the locks, and if they must stay then need to keep the area clean and use the dumpster that has been provided and which they are not using.

    Number 1 on O’Brien’s list = a publicly funded place for heroin users to shoot up in violation of Federal and State law. Now there is a solution for you. Number 2 = drug users, drunks and street campers wherever they want to be, and strong restraints on Seattle Police, Transportation Department and others whose actual job is to look after the safety, health and welfare of the residents of Seattle. Some of these addicts are coming here from other places, but does that make them residents if they do not pay taxes, occupy public spaces in violation of ordinances, state and federal laws?

  • 6 Biff Sparky // Sep 27, 2016 at 7:41 am

    Just keep on voting the way you do and expect what, different results? This is textbook insanity. Allowing/sanctioning/OK’ing what we currently have is NOT working. There are plenty of existing laws to handle this. VMC: who do YOU incessantly vote for? Your compassion is my headache.

  • 7 Truth // Sep 27, 2016 at 8:34 am

    I see the O’Brien hand-wringers are out in force today!

  • 8 Profile photo of JM98107 JM98107 // Sep 27, 2016 at 9:26 am

    Did the SPD ever arrest the man who robbed Sweet Mickey’s back around Labor Day weekend?

  • 9 Norse // Sep 27, 2016 at 9:28 am

    Orcaspring – you are correct. This is a total waste of time. I’ve been to many of these types of “meetings.” They purposely put people in small groups to control their responses and then they don’t report accurately on the concerns of people that live in the neighborhood. O’Brien does nothing to improve public safety and has no intention of doing so. O’Brien continues to destroy Ballard and has been instrumental into turning it in to a hamlet for the vagrants. And yes, I’m sure Ballard is one of the locations being studied for a “heroin hostel” because he and the religious brethren from St. Lukes, and the Lutheran churches (Compass) are on a quest to provide all they can for these totally messed up vagrants over taking our parks and public spaces. O’Brien doesn’t care about the homeowners or business people in the area. I just hope the people in District 6 that voted him into office get some of the vagrants and their trash on their blocks so they too can live with the vagrants.

  • 10 Beth // Sep 27, 2016 at 10:05 am

    I voted for Mike O’Brien and would again 10/10.

    Unlike those above (and more hilariously on Nextdoor where some soccer mom has made it her life’s work to expose every scrap of garbage in Ballard), I am not so concerned with trash on my block. If it really bothered me, I would probably just grab a Cinch Sack and clean it up myself.

  • 11 He Hate Me // Sep 27, 2016 at 10:38 am

    Number 1. If we want to talk about public safety, we need to address the rampant speeding, distracted driving, cellphone using, stop sign and stop light running of people driving cars.

    Number 2. “Vagrants” are citizens of Seattle. Or maybe they are visitors. The Commons is open to all citizens and even to all visitors. There will not be a rule that certain types of people will be not be allowed in the Commons.

    Number 3. Make some more sanctioned camps and let anyone stay there. Tell the campers where they can camp; don’t let them camp wherever they want.

  • 12 TheOne // Sep 27, 2016 at 12:13 pm

    @Half Truth…you use the phrase “hand-wringing” in every post that you make. Can you come up with something new for once?

    @She Hate Me: You are truly a piece of work. If we want to talk about public safety, we need to address the rampant speeding, distracted riding, cell phone using, stop sign and stop light running of people riding bicycles. Bicycles should be registered and pay yearly bicycle tabs to be on the road.

    Do you have a spot for the “vagrant” citizens of Seattle on your couch? I didn’t think so. No, the drug dealers and criminals do not belong in the Commons Park, they belong in the King County Jail. Why can’t you get that through your thick skull? Oh yeah, you’ve been brainwashed by Lyin’ O’Brien.

  • 13 He Hate Me // Sep 27, 2016 at 12:20 pm

    @12 TheOne, people riding bicycles don’t kill people driving cars. People driving cars have killed two people in Seattle this week. Seattle used to have yearly bicycle registration and tabs, but they stopped doing it. You don’t even know why they stopped. Perhaps you should educate yourself. You apparently also don’t know what the word vagrant means. It doesn’t mean drug dealer or criminal. Honestly, your ignorance is palpable.

  • 14 Truth // Sep 27, 2016 at 2:29 pm

    @TheOne (or is it LocalBoy?): I can use something different if you come up with a more unique nickname for me. HalfTruth is and has been pretty boring. But since I’m clearly the better person here, I’ll start the negotiation. I’ll start using “pearl-clutchers”. Hand-wringers DOES imply there is some legitimate, yet misguided, concern for the community, which you and your like clearly do not have. Pearl-clutchers is more appropriate, since it implies that you are shocked at something you have no clue about nor have any rational discussion for solutions.

    But let’s move on to the substance of my post, and it’s a shocker: people like you and Norse are the cause of the increase of homelessness in Ballard.

    *Gasp!* “But HalfTruth, I’m an upstanding model of citizenry and do nothing but demand the removal of homeless and half-wittedly mock those hoping for real solutions to the problem!” *clutches pearls*

    While you aren’t responsible for the CAUSE of the homeless issue, but you are responsible for the CONTINUATION of the homeless issue (see what I did there?). And how, you may ask? Because every legitimate solution (and I mean EVERY) that gets proposed, you become a rabble-rouser and cause such a stink, that the solutions get altered, delayed or inevitably cancelled.

    The unfortunate thing is that the rabble-rousers (there’s one I’ll keep in my back pocket) are a small minority of Ballard (maximum 38.4% based on Weatbrook’s failed campaign), but unfortunately the most vocal. More than a supermajority of Ballard support O’Brien and (I would surmise) the various ideas to reduce or eliminate homelessness (housing, urban rest stops, safe injection/rehab centers, etc). Unfortunately, these proven methods of reducing or eliminating homelessness face uphill battles because of people like you. You’re really no better than the anti-vaxxers.

    The reason why you actively oppose them, we may never know, but I suspect it’s because people like you have never experienced a downturn in your life and can’t stand to see or support methods to help those experiencing downturns to get back on their feet and back into society, because they “aren’t deserving”.

    And don’t tell me for a second it’s tax money, because we spend a literal shit-ton of money mitigating the current homeless issue, when the methods I mentioned above are proven to REDUCE spending on homeless after the initial costs.

    QED

    Now that I’ve put this issue to bed, we can focus on other issues, like you feeling that bicycles need some special form of enforcement, when cars don’t current have any form of enforcement, coupled with the fact that when a car runs a stop sign or stop light, people can die. Your rebuttal on this?

  • 15 Profile photo of JM98107 JM98107 // Sep 27, 2016 at 3:43 pm

    Who is libel when needle user dies in one of the suicide facilities? The drug users are bringing their own prescriptions of various strength. Will the city be sued by surviving family members?

  • 16 Profile photo of JM98107 JM98107 // Sep 27, 2016 at 3:45 pm

    Truth, don’t you have a job? Why don’t you tend to problems in your own neighborhood. You’re obviously a hack for Mr O.

  • 17 LocalBoy // Sep 27, 2016 at 3:48 pm

    @Half Truth

    The only actual “pearl clutching” in Ballard is when the “new neighbors” steal them from a resident after kicking in their door, or smashing their car window.

  • 18 crayon wielder // Sep 27, 2016 at 4:04 pm

    @#10 Not sure if you get ‘Magnolia’ Nextdoor, but there’s some real heroes out there who stole a homeless person’s dog, then had the gumption to think that this dog’s puppies were at risk (since the bitch was not around). So then they stole the puppies, too.

    Yeah, real heroes you guys are /s

  • 19 LocalBoy // Sep 27, 2016 at 4:37 pm

    @18
    Holy social justice, Batman! Somebody stole a hobo’s dogs! Better get the ACLU on this case stat before somebody teaches those pitbulls to be self hating racists, or worse, taxpaying workers.

  • 20 Orcaspringer // Sep 28, 2016 at 6:25 am

    Just what we need – another half dozen plus un-neutered pups in the homeless community. Pets, by the way, are a reason some can’t get into shelters. Some of you homeless advocates are just plain stupid.

  • 21 He Hate Ma // Sep 28, 2016 at 6:49 am

    @20 orcaspringer/compass rose
    “Homeless Advocates” I love this term. As if anyone advocates for homelessness. You know unhoused people are people, right? You just feel you’re better. More superior, more important. You’re more valuable, the unhoused have no value.
    You’re the smart one.

  • 22 Bryce // Sep 28, 2016 at 8:29 am

    @21 What do you have against the homeless? Living outdoors and migrating frequently was at one point considered a “normal” lifestyle for humans. It’s in our DNA from millions of years of hunter-gatherer living, prior to the relatively recent development of humans living indoors in one place.

    Now however there seem to be a lot of people parading around as “homeless advocates”. They believe housed living is “correct” and un-housed living isn’t just wrong, it’s something nobody would choose. No sane person anyway. They turn it into a judgement on someones worth. They point to people who have obvious drug and psychological issues and conflate them with “homelessness” and blame their condition not on the medical problems they’re suffering but the very state of being homeless.

  • 23 Truth // Sep 28, 2016 at 8:58 am

    @JM98107: Holy strawman Batman! The whole point of safe injection sites is that medical staff is standing by in case of an overdose. Could people die? Well yeah, that’s always a possibility. Of course you gloss over the fact that vastly less people will die and the goal is nobody dying on the streets.

    Your argument would beg the question: why have hospitals when somebody could die there?

    And I do have a job, a very nice job at that, and Ballard is my neighborhood, which I care very much about. It’s very clear that you and LocalBoy/TheOne do not care about our neighborhood at all. You offer no solutions and clutch your pearls when real, proven solutions are given. You pine for some long lost “Leave it to Beaver” era that never existed outside of the silver screen, but you will do anything to make it a reality.

  • 24 Ken // Sep 28, 2016 at 8:59 am

    Of course the same dipshits that think they’re ‘saving the world’ by taking a homeless person’s dogs are the same jerks that let their own dogs run around off-leash at our playfields.

    I guess it’s ok when my kid steps in your dog’s poo, since it does not stink

  • 25 He Hare Me // Sep 28, 2016 at 9:06 am

    @22 Bryce, that’s my point, actually. Perhaps you meant @20?
    Homeless people are people. Nobody advocates for people to become homeless, which is what the term Homeless Advocate literally means. Those that trash unhoused people are just ignorant holes of hate.

  • 26 Profile photo of JM98107 JM98107 // Sep 28, 2016 at 12:27 pm

    Getting rebranded as homeless is a clever move by the bums, winos and their advocates. Leeches on the tax payers would be a better label. The city wastes too much money on shelters to keep bums in their lazy lifestyle. Why should they do anything worthwhile when they can get by. I have seen the same scraggly bums for years and they aren’t changing –well they are older and thinner. Seattle is attracting the professional hobos from across America. Meanwhile, Seattle is being remodeled by the workers from central America while the white trash staggers down the alley.

  • 27 Truth // Sep 28, 2016 at 12:38 pm

    @JM98107: Good lord! If you clutch your pearls any harder, they’re going to turn to dust.

  • 28 Profile photo of JM98107 JM98107 // Sep 28, 2016 at 12:52 pm

    Be sure to shred all paper with personal info before putting into your recycling bin. The bums have been seen digging in the bins.

  • 29 shawshanker2 // Sep 28, 2016 at 5:12 pm

    M.O. is weak and hobbled by his myopic view of our city’s challenges. We need leaders who are inspired with a bigger vision of what we can become as a city. Here’s to hoping for new city leaders to choose from in the next election. In the mean time M.O. is lucky to have lovers like t and hhm to stroke him along. That hopefully won’t be enough blind stroking to get M.O. re-elected.

  • 30 biped // Sep 28, 2016 at 5:21 pm

    Good grief, it’s like a contest of who’s the most victimized followed by how many times can a person keep saying “clutch your pearls.”

    So. In the interest of gender equality because Mike O’Brien will be very proud of you, try brass balls maybe…. or blue balls if more accurate to describe the state one must be to be clutching pearls or keep writing about clutching pearls.

  • 31 biped // Sep 28, 2016 at 5:29 pm

    I agree the break out session is such a non-democratic way to conduct a community meeting. It’s wimpy and deliberately design to get people frustrated enough not to show up at another one of these things. Disengagement is what they want for the clued in. Otherwise, stay clueless.

    Mike O’Brien isn’t the only user of this. They all do it. Even Seattle Public Schools.

  • 32 Truth // Sep 29, 2016 at 8:48 am

    @biped: If you wring your hands any harder, you’re going to expose bone!

    If people have nothing better to post than the fact that they saw a homeless person or how “Lyin'” O’Brien cheated his way onto the council, then pearl-clutchers and hand-wringers shall be the response they get. I don’t know what else they would expect.

  • 33 Profile photo of JM98107 JM98107 // Sep 29, 2016 at 12:37 pm

    The Mayor is requesting an additional 12 million in his next budget on top of the 50 million to help the homeless. So generous with the public’s money and nothing will change. We need more police and the new SPD facility on 130th.

  • 34 The One // Sep 29, 2016 at 12:44 pm

    @ 1/8 Truth:

    How is the hand-wringing and the pearl clutching going? Lyin O’Brien and Ed “blank check” Murray must be so satisfied with your comments. You must be a Bernie supporter. How is his campaign going now?

    Maybe you and She Hate Everything should be responsible for paying for all of the stolen bicycles and shopping carts all over Ballard.

  • 35 Truth // Sep 29, 2016 at 1:58 pm

    @LocalOne: What in the hell are you babbling about?

  • 36 Common Sense // Sep 29, 2016 at 1:58 pm

    Hey, let’s start handing out bus tickets like Portland….they might be on to something.

  • 37 biped // Sep 29, 2016 at 3:14 pm

    @32 Truth, Vancouver BC stats for this year shows an increase in OD deaths from last year. Vancouver has a program which supply and administer the drug so it’s even safer. Unfortunately these sites don’t solve the problem of addiction or OD deaths.

    The problems just keep growing. The sites won’t reduce crime, public nuisance, public health problems related to drug use because the program can’t force users to use them. The program can’t solve all the other issues in these people’s lives which caused them to be like this. BC doesn’t have the budget. They are closing down schools for goodness sake!

    I don’t oppose injection sites. God knows I’ve taken care of enough ODs (many ODs aren’t your one drug heroin user, but can be a cocktail which narcan alone can’t reverse) and drug related illnesses and traumas to see the complexity and repeaters back in the ER.

    Injection sites don’t fix much in the present scheme of things. It sad because to get serious, the approach need more than just an injection site. It needs robust drug treatment, drug interdiction, social safety network from mental health counseling, safe housing, job retraining and overall health management. That will cost a pretty penny.

    But yes, Truth keep yelling at us who have legimate concerns to clutch our (nonexistent) pearls if that makes you feel better.

  • 38 Profile photo of JM98107 JM98107 // Sep 29, 2016 at 3:16 pm

    Portland recently swept a huge problem area known as Springwater. Now they are building a total of 382 housing units in three apartment complexes for low income people. Of Course. it won’t be ready any time soon. I’d expect Portland to be bussing folks in this direction for the winter.

  • 39 biped // Sep 29, 2016 at 3:44 pm

    I should add to the above post. It’s why I take Mike O’Brien’s earnestness with a grain of salt. If he’s serious and genuinely care about the people of Seattle, he needs to pay attention and work for all the people. Not just those who catch his interest or are beneficial to him politically. I know that ideal makes me a bit naive, but I’m happy to clutch my (non-existent since I can’t afford them) pearls and keep at him to do so.

    That means providing safe public space for all. People shouldn’t get accosted walking to the library or have to learn how to handle dirty needles or scoop up human poo. People need better and more effective police response when they are victims of crime. People crammed into dense space, relying on public transit to get around per Mike O’Brien HALA vision, should be able to access parks and green space to enjoy without qualm.

    There has to be a balance. He represents all of us and is paid to do so.

  • 40 Truth // Sep 29, 2016 at 4:18 pm

    @biped: Despite clutching your pearls, you actually make some points with some actual solutions, which 99% of the riff raff complaining about the homeless can’t seem to accomplish.

    Safe injections won’t “fix” anything, but I certainly believe it will be better than the current situation. You nailed it with your list of things that need to happen to actually “fix” the situation. And like you said, it’s not going to be cheap and will likely need to come from the national level (AKA not with the current congress). That should be easy to compensate. Put capital gains taxes back to parity with income taxes, eliminate 95% of tax loopholes and/or hell, cancel the F-35 project ($400 billion in for a $1.5 trillion program that can’t fly and is allegedly obsolete compared to existing fighters). There’d be enough left over to actually fund our K-12 and higher education systems back to first world parity.

    And I believe O’Brien is sincere and wants the best for his district. The homeless don’t vote or pay taxes, so what incentive does he have to help them? Unfortunately, with a city’s budget and resources, stopgap measures are the best he can do without additional levies. Maybe if more people showed up to these events rather than complaining about the homeless person they saw the other day, the meetings would be more effective.

    As far as police, I don’t know what to say. We have about half the officers per capita compared to NYPD, despite paying about 75% per capita. NYC is also a 24 hour city, while we’re not. The easy thing is to hire a ton more officers. At some point, that will solve things, but who knows at what point.

  • 41 Profile photo of JM98107 JM98107 // Sep 29, 2016 at 5:22 pm

    The solution is to spend less and quit giving money to the homeless advocates. It’s very-very simple. The bums under the freeway are not trying to improve the city or themselves. O’Brien’s fan are deaf, dumb and blind. Say, what happened to blind Brenda, Miranda and Bart? The trolls fade away…

  • 42 guesty // Sep 29, 2016 at 5:27 pm

    I can’t believe that nobody has started a “go fund me” site to buy drugs for these deadbeats – that’s about the only thing that hasn’t been pitched yet to deal with this city aided insanity…

  • 43 Profile photo of JM98107 JM98107 // Sep 29, 2016 at 5:28 pm

    Warning, we are reaching the 50 comment limit when all these wonderful thoughts vaporize.

  • 44 Truth // Sep 30, 2016 at 8:10 am

    @JM98107: The fact that you changed your profile picture to something relevant, makes me question my original thinking that you were some poorly programed comment bot!

  • 45 Delusional Boomer // Sep 30, 2016 at 5:19 pm

    Aww, Truthy, you are so cute with your comebacks and military budget citations.

    Hey, tell you a little secret: when you make it ok for junkie drifters to camp with their pitbulls all over the city, the quality of life goes down for everyone.

    What kill me, is that most liberals here are total control freaks, unless someone tries to apply rules to one of their pet groups, then they just focus on restricting the rights of law abiding citizens and/or raise taxes.

    It’s a very funny thing to witness: they freak about jaywalkers and cig smoking but are ok with heroin parks and swarms of diseased thieves.

  • 46 Profile photo of JM98107 JM98107 // Sep 30, 2016 at 5:30 pm

    The stabbing in Woodland Park, last night, is another example of why the city shouldn’t allow camping in the parks. Who will be the camp counselor? The transients make up their own rules and ignore local laws.

  • 47 Truth // Oct 1, 2016 at 9:58 am

    @Delusional: You seem irate. Did you see a homeless person, clutch your pearls closely and make a beeline straight for the Ballard blog to post about it? And the drugs! Won’t somebody PLEASE think of the children?

  • 48 Profile photo of JM98107 JM98107 // Oct 1, 2016 at 10:16 am

    Authorities have given the bums ten days to move out of the jungle area under the freeway. Lots of litter, garbage, human waste and pollution left to clean up. With regular SPD patrols on ATVs, the city should be able to prevent future bum villages. They need to sweep the former nicklesville site on Dearborn too.

  • 49 Delusional Boomer // Oct 1, 2016 at 11:50 am

    @47

    I know, Truthy, anything to stick it to republicans, right? Even if it means turning Seattle into a big trash pile filled with drug zombies.

    I know your liberal solipsism won’t allow it, but your “tolerance” puts others at risk every day.

  • 50 Truth // Oct 1, 2016 at 10:07 pm

    @Delusional: The Republicans have already stuck it to us time and time again on the national level. They couldn’t be trusted to run to the fridge let along running this City.

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