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Would You Use Marijuana If It Was Legal ?

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Started 1 year ago by BuffaloHawk
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BuffaloHawk

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I-502 would create a system of state-licensed growers, processors and stores, and impose a 25 percent excise tax at each stage. Those 21 and over could buy up to an ounce of dried marijuana; one pound of marijuana-infused product in solid form, such as brownies; or 72 ounces of marijuana-infused liquids.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46169391/ns/local_news-seattle_wa/

It isn't my deal but I have no problem with people enjoying marijuana. I may do it on a rare occasion but legal or not it wouldn't change how much I use it.

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RichY

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Not my thing but:
..impose a 25 percent excise tax at each stage..
so why would anyone buy it legally when the tax-free infrastructure is already in place ?

Posted 1 year ago #
BuffaloHawk

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RichY.. Great answer

I am wondering if it is legal can they prosecute for growing you own and how that would be imposed or written in the law.

Posted 1 year ago #
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I absolutely think marijuana should be legal, but I would not use it. In fact, I would not date someone who used it chronically. I also wouldn't date an alcoholic, but I am in favour of spirits being sold in the grocery store.

It just doesn't make a lot of sense to me that alcohol is legal and marijuana is illegal on a fundamental level.

There was a time I have considered using it when I was ill and heard that if I got ahold of marijuana that was high in CBDs and low in THC that it may have helped me. IF it would have helped, it would have been like any other medication that I get off of as soon as I am able to. Trying marijuana as a medicine didn't seem like such a bad idea compared to all the other medicines and their awful side effects.

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RichY

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phoo, that has been legal here for quite awhile now, just needs to be filled at your pharmacy - it is a capsule and not smoked

Posted 1 year ago #
Oly

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It's a gateway drug. If it's legalized it will lead to an increase in crime, heroin od's, prostitution, social diseases and violent crime. So do society a favor if you have weed drop it off at my house and I'll properly dispose it for you.

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Walt

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If?

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RichY

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Still against fed law:

http://www.q13fox.com/news/kcpq-dea-raids-seattlearea-pot-dispensaries-20111115,0,6489371.story

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phoo

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RichY: Many people say that what is in the pills just doesn't work as well. Also, just try asking a doc to prescribe it. Bzzzt!

Could I have gone to one of the clinics that specifically prescribe marijuana and gotten a green card? Yep, you bet. But it sure is a lot to do to find out IF it works. Stuff off the street was no good because it was full of THC which had negative effects. We also thought we might be moving out of state at the time, so it didn't seem worth the effort if I'd be gone in a few months.

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OingoBoingo

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Amen
Decriminalize
Legalize
Quality control
Yeah, I might try it after retirement. No use getting busted at work, under the influence or not. I like my job too much.

Posted 1 year ago #
dsomers

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I am not impressed with the effort and $$ we waste on it now and could support decriminalizing it. I never felt it was any worse than alcohol. But I have also never had any interest in using it after trying it once in High School. Just didnt see the point and never did it again. But then, I don't care for being soused or drugged up either. A good beer or a glass of wine with a meal is more my speed.

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Posted 1 year ago #
SmartsyArtsy

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It's a lot better than drinking for me.

Posted 1 year ago #
brown_eyes

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I haven't smoked pot in years and years and years. It makes everything you eat taste bad and I like good food. It made my sinuses stuff up. I couldn't do anything but sit around when I was high, which was a huge time waster and it wasn't that much fun.

I think it should be legal and taxed like crazy.

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Nora Bell

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dsomers +1

I've used it, didn't like it. But so much time and money is wasted grower raids and arresting users that could be better spent elsewhere. Decriminalize it, legalize it, tax it.

Posted 1 year ago #
Ballardemician

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Brown Eyes you need a clean all sativa strain like Real Blue Dream. One hit will make you clean your house really well.

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great idea

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ballardemician + 420

Posted 1 year ago #
Mondoman

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No, but if it *were* legal...

yah, I know, grammar knuckle rapper and all that.

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Ballardemician

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the use of subjunctive tense should only be required at country clubs and in the faculty lounge. Maybe at the opera, but only if you've had less than two Bombay G&T's.

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volvoguy

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I am in favor of decriminalizing it for personal use, but not legalizing it. T.v. ads for casinos disgust me, and I wouldn't want to see pot ads added to the big liar in our living rooms.

" It's a gateway drug" bullshit.

" why would anyone buy it legally when the tax-free infrastructure is already in place ?"
Because it's legal.

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RichY

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Volvoguy, two of the largest and most profitable black-market items are cigarettes and liquor, both legal

Posted 1 year ago #
Norge

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Never been much of a pot smoker myself but I have friends that still do. I am all for the legalization of pot. As far as a drug of choice, I think pot is much safer than alcohol -- you never see men beat up their wives on pot.

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nwcitizen

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Norge +1

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cloudblues

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Volvoguy, did you actually read ALL of Oly's post? ;)

Posted 1 year ago #
Hill Dweller

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You mean it's illegal!!!!!

Posted 1 year ago #
Dweezil

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If it were legal, I'd use it only socially. Maybe once a month, because smoke going into my lungs is probably not a good thing over the long run.

It sure would change a lot of things regarding border smuggling, US farming, taxpayer costs for incarceration/prosecution, and gang crime.

I also think some corporations would get whiplash as they change from "marijuana is evil" to "oh, hey, we can make money on this".

Posted 1 year ago #
Suzaroo

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it being illegal, and having to know someone who knows someone and all of that business is a big deterrent for me. if i could walk in to a store and get some, easy peasy, i'd be more likely to.

i'd have to do some homework and find out about the different kinds though. that "Real Blue Dream" that ballardamerican recommends sounds good! the last few times i smoked, i just got really sleepy. not fun!

Posted 1 year ago #
Garrett

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No.

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Thomas C.

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You're all a bunch of dirty hippies.

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volvoguy

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" Volvoguy, did you actually read ALL of Oly's post? ;)"
Oh, obviously not - oops. Looked like a typical "War On Drugs" rant. I'm a little ADD and didn't finish the whole post.

Posted 1 year ago #
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I think alcohol addiction does more damage to society than a marijuana addiction does. Pot provides medical relief to many and and others choose to self-medicate with it for many reasons, and I'm okay with both scenarios. Recreational use (as in 'not addicted') has never threatened my world.

I'm in favor of removing pot from the Schedule II list and have no problem if society wants to legalize/regulate/tax it, same as booze and smokes. It would be a guaranteed revenue-raiser and I think that's a good thing, especially if a significant portion of the revenue would go to general addiction treatment programs for those who otherwise couldn't access those services.

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Oly - I thought you were serious when firt started reading your post. I'm sure people would be more than happy to "dispose" it at your home. I had some house plants that I later discovered a "friend" had put a little tiny pot start in it. I kept it to see if it would grow & man, did it. It was actually pretty but found I was paranoid when like City Light came over - so would hide it. (silly thinking but I wasn't a pot smoker) It was on a stand behind a chair that my cat slept on - the breeze of the open window was blowing plant into his face. Next day came home from work & that cat had ate every single leaf. So much for that plant.

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Cate

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gracie - so how was your kitty after his indulgence? Did he have the munchies?

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SmartsyArtsy

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Cate +1

Many years ago, my brother had a party in my father's yard. During the party, he was talking to a friend about someone and he gestured toward the house that backed up to the yard. My father was up on the third floor looking out the window. Seeing my brother's gesture, he made a decision. The next day he uprooted some very nice healthy pot plants. No, they were not my brother's plants. They were planted by my father, the ultimate curious horiculturist. He was sure my brother had found out about them and was "blabbing". Wow, what a bummer.

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Cate - +1 I imagine if he could have talked, he would have wanted some Twinkies, potato chips. M-e-r-r-r-o-o-o-w-w-w-w

Posted 1 year ago #
Thomas C.

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I'll still smoke either way.

@ ballardem: white widow is a great strain.

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teigyr

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Nope. I also wonder how jobs under drug testing regulations would figure out impaired vs. "I did this 2 days ago on my day off" levels. I do think something has to be done though, the system now is a farce. You pay $250-ish for a doctor to say you need it, a doctor who has never actually SEEN you before, and you get the card. I've known people who have done it and it really is an insult to people who actually might need it medically.

I'm pretty much falling down drooling on the ground allergic to any form of smoke, including wood burning fireplaces if I'm outside, so I know my limitations. I'm also really restricted at work through gov't required testing though that doesn't bother me.

I still have to have a day or two recovery after spending any time at all at the Rickshaw. Between the strong drinks, bad food, and smoke molecules or whatever they are adhering to the interior of the place, I'm a goner.

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I probably wouldn't because I don't now anymore. I get way more paranoid and anxious and I don't feel comfortable. However I have many friends that do and I know that a vaporizer is the answer to the smoke in your lungs issue.
I also have a lot of respect for anyone that grows "good" stuff! A couple of years ago I was given a few seeds and grew them during the summer in the back yard. They grew well but did not end up as "good" stuff. After reading about growing I realized that it is a science that is very involved.

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Mainly I see drug use as something young people indulge in, so that really qualifies my response. Legal or not, I would not smoke pot today. I'm no Okie from Muskogee, but when I was younger, I was never a fan of pot and always preferred alcohol, and thats how I am now.

Back in the day, you'd be much more likely to see me with a 40 of king cobra than a bong or a joint. Maybe if it was legal I would have given it more of a chance. When you are young, small, and have no experience, going outside the law for something, well it always felt like I was getting screwed with no recourse. There is also the issue of access, it was like you had to be social with people you would NEVER talk to just to get access, and if you were part of their clique maybe you got a better deal, which is just wrong. And then add the criminal element, and it just was not worth it.

At a proper market, there are more protections to the buyer. Still, the short answer: if I were 18 and it were legal, I'd probably give it more of a chance, but really don't think its my thing. It if were legal now, I would just look at others using and laugh.

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Not that I'm admitting to anything, but y'all DO know what a vaporizer is, right? In the 21st Century there's no need for smoking. It's better for your lungs by a mile, leaves no smell, and is a much milder form of intake.

Just sayin'.

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Edog

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I poured a few Mickey's Big Mouths into a vaporizer when I was younger, and never felt a thing!

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Only because I feel compelled to share...

I worked a summer job, back in the day, with a guy working toward a botany major at the UW. The guy smuggled out 27th generation starts of 'Indica'. It is known as 'Purple Polio' or 'Juicy Fruit', for those who track strains.

I am aware of fellow 'fans' in SPD, and SPU, that protect him to this day. Last time I talked with him was at a nice little Seattle party in a little mansion. Nuff said.

I'd hate to think about what would happen if it were classified as a taxable product, and everyone he's been providing for, a very quality product would be locally regulated.

Legality is about who you know, isn't it.

Two bit, dirt-farming basement strains of 'Lumbo' will supplant quality generations.

Tell me I'm wrong. Be the first to label me a liar, CD.

Apparent 'King' of the sandbox, you are.

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Walt

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Vaporizers (of course, your mileage may vary) don't give the same results as smoke. People very, very close to me report that the vapor lacks the full effect. I speculate that may be because different cannabinoids volatilize at different temperatures.

The good news is that marijuana smoke is easier on the lungs than tobacco smoke and does not seem correlated to cancer. One reason may be because it seems to cause less inflammation than tobacco; another could be the typically smaller dose.

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Thomas C.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zErP5QoMA3w

'nuff said.

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onederfullone

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Thomas, fwiw, Bob woulda said decriminalize it.

Not a fan of cartels, I promise, but 'legalize it' was a proper rhythmic structure.

The good news is that marijuana smoke is easier on the lungs than tobacco smoke and does not seem correlated to cancer. One reason may be because it seems to cause less inflammation than tobacco; another could be the typically smaller dose.

Or, maybe, it's absent of the 300+ known additives that are known carcinogens?

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Compass Rose

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I'm also told by a very reliable source that vaporizers are definitely the way to go.

And the source says there's another good alternative, which is to make a tincture.

Of course, I wouldn't know any of this firsthand.

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onederfullone

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB9rgGrAomY

I think it's the vodka...

Of course, I wouldn't know any of this firsthand.

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BuffaloHawk

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oneder

One of the girls I work with at Oregon Country Fair sells liters of it for only $20.00. It taste just like a Kahlua and it is pretty damn potent. I get alot of request from people to get them some when I go to the fair.

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At any rate, I'm all for legalization. It's beyond ridiculous that alcohol, a much more destructive drug (not to mention addictive) is legal and pot isn't. It's a PLANT, fer chrissakes.

Ask cops if they'd rather bust a room full of drunks or a room full of stoners and see what they say.

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BuffaloHawk

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I get soy & help milk for my daughter since I have never given her milk. It is ridiculous the extra amount you have to pay for hemp milk since they can't grow it in the US. It has to be made in Canada and shipped to the US :(

Posted 1 year ago #
Nora Charles

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REALLY? Who exactly would honestly reply to this question?

Posted 1 year ago #
oldguybc

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LAST MINUTE UPDATE:
Tried to find Oly's house, finally followed my nose and there it was, think of Cheech and Chong's van in "Up in Smoke"...
Shame on you MyBallard, you've created a monster!
Oly has put on 75 lbs and is now trying to transport himself back to August of 1969...
Speaking of ganja, does anyone remember my sister Haun? Ballard class of 1964, beautiful lady, lived in Mendocino on a "small farm", used to come up to Ballard a few times a year and destroy a few billion brain cells among her many friends...

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Pastafarian

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http://www.kplu.org/post/seattle-mayor-legalize-marijuana-so-we-can-stop-crime

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