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I'd love to be a bus monitor

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Started 12 months ago by onederfullone
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onederfullone

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http://mynorthwest.com/?nid=91

...not really.

Posted 12 months ago #
Nora Bell

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Okay, I listened to about 3 mins of that before I couldn't listen to anymore. Bus monitors should carry tasers.

Posted 12 months ago #
RichY

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Wrong person for the job ? Like sending a kitten to guard pitbulls

Posted 12 months ago #
charliecooper

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Not surprised one bit. Thank you, public school system.

Posted 12 months ago #
Edog

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Cause nobody in private school bullies anybody, ever!

Posted 12 months ago #
pennygirl

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Edog's trademark bus face would get those kids in line sharpish.

Posted 12 months ago #
phoo

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You know what? It is absolutely wrong to abuse children. And children have always found a way to wreak one form of havoc or another. However, a number of generations ago this kind of behaviour would not have been tolerated because the school would tell the parents and the parents would come down like a ton of bricks on the kid. I am not talking about abusive households, but simply more strict discipline. Don't get me wrong - I am not romanticizing a strict raising. There are both pros and cons. A pro of a strict raising is children who do not do this.

This kind of behavior is what results when the whole system (aka school>parents) breaks down and no one is held accountable.

Posted 12 months ago #
iPlod

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phoo, don't you dare try to ruin my kid's dream of harshing on a monitor.

Posted 12 months ago #
onederfullone

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I just can't say anything about this video.

But, oh, how I want to.

I guess a few of the kids have been identified, and their parents as well. Maybe a ton of bricks will fall where it belongs. For once.

I doubt it.

More likely, parents will sue because their little angels were outed, and are never going to know exactly how many people want to slap the snot out of them.

Every once in awhile, something goes viral for a very good reason. This would be one.

I cried for the lady, only because I went to school every day with shits like that.

Posted 12 months ago #
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kind of an interesting story:
http://mashable.com/2012/06/20/bus-monitor-harassed/

appparently after the video went viral, people started contributing money so the victim could go on a vacation. the number is up to $130k and she is now considering retirement.

maybe I would like to be a bus monitor?

Posted 12 months ago #
Edog

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It could be a new reality show. Get your ego bombed by a buch of horrible teenage sh*ts and win a million dollars.

Posted 12 months ago #
NW Native

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She should get to taze those kids in the balls multiple times each. On Youtube.

Posted 12 months ago #
NW Native

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Better still, I'd love to see those Mariners from the mashable story locked in a room for ten minutes with those kids. On youtube.

Posted 12 months ago #
onederfullone

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Fund is about 300K now.

I'd like to see a blacklist for the snot-nosed punks of ever doing anything beyond driving a school bus.

But I'm a bit twisted anymore.

Speaking of Bullies, anyone hear about Savage? That guy needs to get throated. I mean throttled, but throated would work...

"It gets better"...you just need to be a bully, lol. Nice, Savage, effing Punk.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/dan-savage-calls-gay-conservative-group-goproud-house-faggots-for-romney-endorsement/

Posted 12 months ago #
charliecooper

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@Edog: Not at any point did someone say kids in private schools had not bullied someone at some point. I was speaking only about the video shown.

I do know, if those children were in a private school, they would be held accountable for their behaviour.

This incident happened in Greece, New York. I know a teacher in the public school system in New York City that has said students bully other students and the teachers. Students have openly threatened teachers and there was no disciplinary actions taken. It takes so much more to discipline a student in a public school, while the same actions would have a student expelled in a private school.

Posted 12 months ago #
DDF

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I would be so sad if I had to go through life knowing I gave birth to such a monster.

Posted 12 months ago #
onederfullone

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Sad would be the least of your worries, fwiw.

Posted 12 months ago #
BuffaloHawk

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I would take that job for the donations rolling in . Damn past $455,000.00 with 29 days to go.

http://now.msn.com/now/0622-bus-donations-deserve.aspx

Maybe she reminded them of their own grandmas, or maybe the footage took them back to the horror of their own school days. Whatever, it was beautiful. But as donations approach $500,000 with 29 days left to go, some people are asking: Does she really deserve it?

Posted 12 months ago #
onederfullone

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Apology letters, a few Benjamins, not a bad outcome, imo.

I would like the little shits that felt like they were in charge of a school bus to put it on their resume.

If they can't drive a goddamn bus, they can grab a nipple. A big, fat, sweaty nipple.

Bon appetit, ass-wipes.

Posted 12 months ago #
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I did lose some respect for MSN for putting on there main page some uncalled for dirty journalism at the end. Do they care about the victim or a catchy headline? Why do they facebooking care how people spend there money ?

http://now.msn.com/now/0622-bus-donations-deserve.aspx

Let's face it: That kind of cash can go a long way — 5,000 goats for starving African families, a year's tuition for a dozen underprivileged kids at Harvard, a new gold-flecked hairpiece for Donald Trump. Just sayin'.

Facebook the writer

Posted 12 months ago #
onederfullone

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Some people have that kind of cash.

Some have earned it.

Some feel entitled to it.

Welcome to the school bus.

Put your phone on record, make somebody rich.

Posted 12 months ago #
Edog

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And some people are born with it yet feel entitled to tell you they earned it.

Posted 12 months ago #
pennygirl

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People who pick on grannies are scumbags. Kids picking on one another is one thing but this beggars belief.

Posted 12 months ago #
racerX

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Exactly, RichY.

Posted 12 months ago #
onederfullone

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lol, how exactly?

Blaming the victim? yep.

Typical moronic response.

Racer X called, wants the idiot to pull that avatar.

Speed Racer pushes the eject button.

Posted 12 months ago #
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Onederfullone, Children are born stupid and have no knowledge of social behavior, it is up to adults to teach them what is acceptable and what is not, kids will test, and re-test these rules. Bulling needs to stop and if you think that kids will monitor and regulate themselves , then you are part of the problem. In this video the children tested a boundary were not stopped – this told them that the behavior was ok for them – this bus monitor just help create bullies (because they got away with it) - children need to learn the rules and have them enforced, they look to adults for guidance, when the guidance is not given the assumption is that this behavior is ok.

The school and the bus company have made a problem much larger now by allowing this ineffective adult to interact with impressionable kids.

Having been a chubby non English speaking child, who ate with the “wrong hand” and ate funny food, I was teased and bullied, but I grew out of it – onederfullone you should also and start to address the problems and work to a solution for today’s and tomorrow’s kids

Posted 12 months ago #
Ernie

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Exactly, RichY.

Posted 12 months ago #
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very well articulated RichY.

the alternative of course, is to become a cyber-bully and call everyone a moron.

Posted 12 months ago #
onederfullone

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her job was to protect kids on the bus.

Nowhere is she allowed to protect herself, and it was ongoing.

Again, blame the old lady. Tell her what she should have done to get fired.

You all are sick in the head. Agreed.

Posted 12 months ago #
Ernie

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the alternative of course, is to become a cyber-bully and call everyone a moron.

Are you thinking of anyone in particular? lol

/sarcasm

Posted 12 months ago #
onederfullone

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Cyber liars are more popular. Got it.

Posted 12 months ago #
racerX

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Way to read into that, onederfullone. Never said what those kids did was right.

Posted 12 months ago #
onederfullone

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Certainly it was implied. Omission is powerful stuff, racer.

Posted 12 months ago #
BuffaloHawk

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As i walk through
This wicked world
Searchin' for light in the darkness of insanity.

I ask myself
Is all hope lost?
Is there only pain and hatred, and misery?

cause each time i feel it slippin' away, just makes me wanna cry.
What's so funny 'bout peace love & understanding? ohhhh
What's so funny 'bout peace love & understanding?

Elvis has left the building ;) Carry on friends ...

Posted 12 months ago #
erryn77

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I watched the video and I cried. That woman is someones mother, grandmother, if I was her I would have ripped those kids open and then went straight to their parents. She deserves the money. (BTW, remember the part where the kid says, "You are alone because your family killed themselves to get away from you" Her son actually did commit suicide a few years ago.)

Posted 12 months ago #
pennygirl

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Well said erryn.

Posted 12 months ago #
Corvus

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Teachers, Hall Monitors, Bus Monitors, etc. etc. are all hamstrung these days and it is very very hard to project an imposing force when there is really little one can do if your bluff is called. What is this elderly lady supposed to do, trained to do, willing to do, allowed to do? I have seen seasoned teachers driven to tears by a mob of unruly but otherwise acceptable kids who were feeling the moment. I can't say what I would have done, but I look pretty freaky scary when I'm really PO'd. Maybe it would have worked or maybe one of them would have thrown something at me. I think it is very unwise and extremely unfair to say that this elderly woman helped to create bullies or that the bus company is some how at fault. If that is really true then I think she should have been armed with a tazer and given liberty to use it. And if the parent don't like it, then they can drive their kids to school themselves or let em' walk the streets.

When I rode a bus we sat still in our seats period. If we didn't we were put off the bus and we weren't allowed back on it for a week. This was in Alaska (brrrrrr). Also, this made mom and dad very angry. But back then mom and dad didn't sue the bus company or school district or go on line and try to figure out if Jane the bus driver was divorced or maybe smoked pot in the 60's either. No, mom and dad just told me I better do what Jane said or I'd be in even bigger trouble.

Yes, I am a curmudgeon. But kids these days don't respect boundries because there aren't any. The parents of these kids have a golden opportunity to teach their kids some respect. I hope they use it. Meanwhile, if I ran the bus company or the school district, I'd have every parent sign a contract making them solely responsible and for their child's behavior. It then becomes just a matter of setting the number of infractions allowed before the PARENTS ARE FINED. It is the only thing people understand these days and if you kick a kid off the bus you are bound to get sued so that won't work.

And Oh yeah... what Erryn said.

Posted 12 months ago #
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Rich Y...

I thought a little bit about what you said, but at the end of the day, these aren't 'children' in the general sense of the word. They are 12/13 year olds. Their parents had plenty of time to teach them what was right or wrong. As for boundaries - a kid who is brought up correctly knows what the boundaries are. Rules shouldn't have to be enforced on the bus if the kids already know the rules and understand that they have to abide by them.

I think that everyone can agree that the first rule you learn is to respect your elders. Obviously these kids weren't taught that. If they don't even have a basic understanding of manners I hate to think what else they are capable of.

If you bully a granny to that point I say spend a few days in juvie. I am not kidding. Meet some real bullies.

Posted 12 months ago #
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PG, I see your point - but it was not mine, I was saying that these children - were in school and the adults around them are still responsible for the welfare of all the kids - this bus monitor was ill-equipped for the job and most likely empowered the worst of them and gave the ok to those who had respect but lost it.

She should never been in that place and now more work needs to be done to undo the damage she caused.

12 – 13 year olds still do not have fully formed relationship and cause / effect capabilities – there is some fair research that sees that 25 years is closer to the age a majority these days.

It would be nice if more parents took some responsibility in raising their child, but alas they seem to think that they have more important things to do.

Children do learn from all adults around them, good or bad.

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I don't know the details, but speculate they were bad kids to begin with for the shear reason that they needed a 'monitor' at the 7th & 8th grade level. I don't recall anyone other than the driver on any bus I rode (aside from chaperones for field trips).

knowing that they were 'troubled' I still side with RichY that a stronger response would have helped the situation.

having said that I hope she has fun with her half mil.

Posted 12 months ago #
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I really feel for this lady, she did not deserve any of that abuse.
I guess I might be one of the only people on this forum that has actually driven a bus carrying school kids! Back in the 80's when I drove for Metro Transit, the school district had a contract with Metro to run "school trippers". These were driven by part time drivers but when there was a "miss" or a driver was off sick/vacation, the work would go on the "extra board" and as I regularly worked the "extra board" I would often get to drive a "school tripper". Metro used old buses for these runs and often the kids were wild especially returning home at the end of the day.
Middle school kids were the worst! Eventually Metro began having monitors on the bus paid for by the school district. But drivers could take names and turn them into the school on the morning run or the base window on the evening run and kids would get reprimanded. But I can tell you it was often a very disturbing and upsetting job. I remember one time after I told one nine or ten year old to stop shouting and stay in his seat, he slapped me as he got off the bus and ran away. I did manage to get his name and report him but when he got home he told his grand mother that I slapped him! And she reported me. I managed to have the truth come out but it was a difficult situation that could have ended in me getting fired.
As for the money being collected, well these are the times we live in, a posting on the internet can result in amazing things. I hope she can retire and maybe donate some of the money to a deserving charity, maybe something that teaches young people respect for other people.

Posted 11 months ago #
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I guess I might be one of the only people on this forum that has actually driven a bus carrying school kids!

Perhaps you are.

You certainly aren't the only one to experience being trapped twice a day with them.

By trapped, I mean, you didn't have a choice, right? Oh, my bad, you did have a choice.

Makes a huge difference, actually.

I hope she can retire and maybe donate some of the money to a deserving charity, maybe something that teaches young people respect for other people.

Interesting, as a self indulgent and pious Vegan, you 'hope' she can retire. Even teach others how to respect everyone. I'm jaded, but I suspect you think you are better than all of us meat eaters, but we are equal, right? Yes, we are.

Thanks for posting.

Maybe the fat meat eater appreciates your ambivalence on this issue.

Maybe I am a bully, but, I think it's about time. Like Mr. Savage, It's earned, right?

Posted 11 months ago #
great idea

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"Maybe I am a bully"

ya think?

Posted 11 months ago #
onederfullone

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You've earned it too. Great Idea. I guess you prefer to backstab? Your choice.

Posted 11 months ago #
VeganBiker

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onederfullone - would you like to meet some time and have a chat?

Posted 11 months ago #
Corvus

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If you don't mind VB, I'd like to have your back on that one.

Posted 11 months ago #
RichY

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Silence ……… <cricket chirp>……….. Silence ……… <cricket chirp>

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