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SmartsyArtsy
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I am making a display which is simple in design but might be tricky for me to do it right without a drill press. I am assuming a drill press will enable me to bore holes straight, as opposed to ending up with some angled. Basically, I am constructing ladders with rungs which will attach to the uprights with dowel pins, thus the importance of doing this straight on.
I could always thank you with a piece of pottery.
Corvus
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I have a drill press you can borrow. It is not that heavy either and is a bench top model, not one of the massive floor mount types.
However, if you showed my your design, I might be able to come up with a quick and easy drill guide that might make it even easier. Just depends on how big of a hole you need to drill.
SmartsyArtsy
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Thanks Corvus. The rungs 11/16 sq, so the drill hole would be about 1/4 on bothe ends of the rung.
Corvus
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OK - It is going to be difficult to get the 11" rung standing on end into the drill press. I don't think mine is tall enough for that. Besides, it will be difficult to hold the rung and do any better job that just a hand held drill. Is this ladder decorative or is it for humans to use?
Couldn't you drill a hole in the ladder uprights large enough for the tapered end of the rung to force into?
Smartsy,
If Corvus's table top drill press wont do it and you dont here from someone with a drill press you might check out a drill guide. It is a device has a drill chuck on rails. Your drill attaches to the top of it and runs the unit. It keeps the drill straight. You can also put a depth stop on it.
I have one you can borrow, but I am already in the office unfortunately and wont be home till tonight. I can bring it in for you on Wed though.
They are not hard to find and generally not expensive. My guess would be $30 at Sears or Home Depot or Lowes. Check Amazon too. Here is a link to a picture of one. Ignore that price. That strikes me as too high.
Dave
http://compare.ebay.com/like/271095171866?var=lv<yp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar
saffythepook
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Even simpler:
Big Gator Tools V-DrillGuide
Also available locally from Rockler on Stone Way
SmartsyArtsy
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corvus, I can't do what you are asking and I do see the issue about holding the rung. The rungs will hold shelves. I really wanted there to not be any screws showing in the uprights, but I may have to go that route.
thanks dsomers, spiffy I didn't know about these.
EDIT I designed something difficult for me to produce, big surprise! I think my first challenge is that I have to hold the rung horizontally at a height correct for the drill. Perhaps then, with a drill guide like spaffy showed, I can get this done. Will report back. Thanks, getting a dialog going usually points out the obvious. I am glad I have you guys to talk to.
Smartsy,
The unit Saffy mentioned is nice. Hadnt seen that before. Cant get much simpler than that. I think the only reason I would pick the other one is if I wanted to be able to drill at an angle as well as straight up and down. The unit like what I linked to will do that. (there is a link on Saffy's link for one like that as well.
With either, I would probably use a center and make a solid dimple where you want the center of the hole to be. Makes it easier to accurately get the drill bit on center for the hole. A simple way to keep the depth consistent from hole to hole is to use a piece of masking tape on the drill, or purchase a set of drill stops. For you use I would probably suggest tape.
Have fun!!
Dave
If you have something that's round I have a small lathe (11 by 27in) and can chuck up round stock to drill holes in the end. And I have a table top drill press but it sounds like Corvus has you covered on that
Bambooboy,
Pardon the brief hijack. Are you by any chance a turner?
Always on the lookout for a fellow chuckhead! Grin
SmartsyArtsy
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Thanks for your advice d., esp the tape for a stop
bambooboy, my rungs are 11/16 SQUARE and a foot long, so it doesn't sound like your lathe will work for me.
I am pretty beat tonight, so I may not do anything until Thursday on this.
Smartsy -
actually I have a 4 jaw chuck which can hold square stock and the head has a 1 inch bore so your 11/16" square stock would fit easily. I could center a drilled hole in the end no problem, I'm sure.
What size dowel holes? I would assume you have the dowels so the hole could be drilled to fit?
Dsomers - My hobby is building bamboo fly rods (my name....) and I use the lathe for making the reel seat components. It's a metal lathe.
SmartsyArtsy
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I have a couple packs of 1/4" but I was going to look for 3/16". So either one is good. This is a very big help
Bambooboy,
Cool!!! Bamboo rods are a thing of beauty. Hopefully I can see one of yours someday. Been a long time since I fly fished but I enjoyed it immensely when I did it.
D
Corvus
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I missed the whole square rung detail in your earlier post. I think your best bet is the lathe for sure.
not very long but this is something I posted on my website regarding building bamboo fishing rods. It's not too long and there are a couple pics of rods in there too.
let me know Smartsy if you are interested.
SmartsyArtsy
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I think so too, corvus but thank you very much for trying to help me out.
dsomers-
I forgotr to post the link (guh!!!)
http://home.comcast.net/~martinrjensen/RodBuilding/Rod_Building.htm
Mondoman
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bbb - dare we ask how much wood you could chuck?
it'a a metal lathe, which of course means that I can in fact chuck up wood, which is mainly why I ought it (the real seats I make are wood, so in answer to you question of how much wood could I chuck,....
If I were to chuck, if I could chuck, I would chuck wood, which we know I can, and the amount of wood that I would chuck would be greater than any wood chuck could gnaw through in a long time, I might say forever if you would allow me the indiscretion to brag a little.
I'm thinking that would answer your question, but on the of chance and highly unlikely chance that you are asking a purely technical question the answer is 11 inches.
SmartsyArtsy
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bamboo, yes I am very interested. Do you want to mail me chrisdotavatar at the gee
Bambooboy!
Fun site. Enjoyed reading through it. Sometime when we get the chance it would be fun to see your work.
Do you turn stuff other than rods? I have a good sized Jet and modified it a bit so I can turn up to about 36 in diameter. Here is a web site of some of my stuff. Not as up to date as it should be though. turnedwooddesign.com
I do everything from small ornaments and tiny finials up to big bowls and hollow forms and platters. Am moving my shop up to the house in West Seattle now so all is in a state of havoc unfortunately.
D
Good luck Smartsy! Hope the project goes well. Share a photo with us when you get a chance!!!
D
Hum.... I'm wondering if I bought some wood from you. I bought a slab of burl maple of which I planned on using only a miniscule amount of it from a hol e in the wall shop not far from the Ballard bridge. This was a few years ago.
My lathe is rated at 11inches but I think the actual maximum is 10 1/2in. I made a nice rotating spice tray for an ex-girlfriends mother a while agoand I still have one of them. Easy to do and way nicer than the ones from Fred Mayer of course.
SmartsyArtsy
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bambooboy, I need to talk with you about timing. Is this weekend possible? I haven't seen an email from you, so wondering what your thoughts are.
bambooboy,
My shop was in the Activ Space Building in Frelard. Behind the People's Storage Building on Leery. Within sight of Hale Brewery. I had the end stall closest to the BG Trail. Matter of fact, I was so close I had to be careful about walking out of the shop. Reallllly easy to whack a biker if I weren't careful. If I was around you would have seen me. I always worked with the bay door up. Even in winter. I never sold wood out of the shop, but I certainly passed wood on to fellow turners when asked.
D
Smartsy
I don't have your email
mine is:
martinrjensen AT comcast DOT net
this weekend will work. I am going over to a friends house most of tomorrow. You ought to email me tonight so we can set up a time. How many of these rungs do you have? I really don't think this will take very much time. There will be an initial setup on the first one but after that it wil be pretty straight forward.
Smartsy,
phone #
331-
0724
thanks
martin
SmartsyArtsy
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I got the frame for my display done today, thanks to bamboo boy and his time on the lathe. Thank you bamboo boy!
dsomers, I looked though your site tonight. Very nicely designed, and what beautiful work. It would be very appreciated if you donate a bowl to Empty Bowl event in March. The last two years I have chosen to purchase a wood bowl at that event because, well, I have enough clay bowls! More and more turners have been getting involved. I am so happy for your reunion with your wife (hope she is feeling better).
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