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eric
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oh the weeping and hand wringing...
these threads pop up regularly, along with the qualifying "i've been staying away from the forum..." or "i will now leave this terrible place and post nevermore".
is it mean or snarky to think this is really not that important?
eric
offlineMember
double post.
great idea
offlineMember
it wasn't mean and snarky until your index finger came down twice on the enter key.
pennygirl
offlineMember
Ha! Say it once it's fine - say it twice it's meaaaaaaan!
pennygirl
offlineMember
To be honest with you I think everyone here does just fine. People get along, they don't get along, they get along again. Everyone has been targeted at one point or another but the majority of people just take it for what it is. Not really that important in the grand scheme of things.
BuffaloHawk
offlineMember
Sometimes I wonder if comments on this board make baby jesus cry;)
pennygirl
offlineMember
The terrible people here would make the devil himself weep :-)
Edog
offlineMember
There are no terrible people in Ballard, Penny!
pennygirl
offlineMember
That's because we are up in Hillbilly land Edog!
lifeisamazing
offlineMember
It's interesting to hear "Everyone has been targeted at one time or another". Why would someone be targeted? That is like what happens on a school ground. Would any of the targeters like to meet one on one for coffee? I'll buy.
pennygirl
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LIA...
Everyone here has had their fair share of a back and forth with someone else. Some people leave, some people stay. That is their choice. Targeted? Yes. Everyone has been. Not many people feel the need to have a coffee summit to sort it out :-)
Cate
onlineMember
LIA - I'll have coffee with you anytime (but I think you already knew that.)
pennygirl
offlineMember
That's why Cate is a good person and I don't like coffee :-)
teigyr
offlineMember
Yeah, I think most have been targeted then life goes on. I really can't name one person here who's mean, actually. I have differing opinions from quite a few but that's what makes life interesting.
Corvus
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Personally, I think it has as much to do with the medium as any thing. It can take a very long time and many many words to properly develop even a simple idea or motif. The problem is that many, if not most people, are uninterested in reading long(ish) posts and so there is pressure to say much with less. That's great for poetry, but maybe not so great for debate, argument, and formation of consensus. Sarcasm (snark) lends itself easily to this medium since it is generally consumed with cutting conversation short with statements with preclude response rather than invite response.
All that said, I have nothing against sarcasm and snark as it has come to be known. In older times it was called wit and people would eagerly attend exchanges between witty people. We do still have remnants of that in popular culture and the forum is our chance to enter the fray.
The factor which is both bad and good is that we don't have to wait on the postman.
"ELO" = Electric Light Orchestra"
pennygirl
offlineMember
So you are on an ELO trip right now Corvus? Was it you who posted something last night? I love that damn band.
BuffaloHawk
offlineMember
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj8kMmUxkSE
Holiday Season with a positive note in Ballard. :)
pennygirl
offlineMember
This forum is alive and well. If you don't like it that's too bad.
BuffaloHawk
offlineMember
I agree.. heart you PG
pennygirl
offlineMember
Keep with the damn theme Buff!
teigyr
offlineMember
I need an expressive interpreter being that I am Youtube challenged. That IS a valid challenge, isn't it?
pennygirl
offlineMember
No! You are being mean!
teigyr
offlineMember
Damn. Now you made me cry. I didn't come here for such abuse.
ARGUMENT CLINIC!!! That's what we need.
SmartsyArtsy
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Well I certainly got no respect recently but in the end Pizza Guy sent some love.
Just to be sure, "Hillbilly Land" is Crown Hill?
pennygirl
offlineMember
Yes Bamboo. You are stuck with me and Teigyr. Sorry.
onederfullone
offlineMember
LIA
http://www.myballard.com/forum/topic.php?id=12058
and...
http://www.myballard.com/forum/topic.php?id=12120
Perhaps it isn't important, but it stung. A simple email would've been nice to get.
You tend to remember mean, I tend to remember everything.
racerX
offlineMember
This ---> http://www.myballard.com/forum/topic.php?id=14962#post-202429
Hands down, the most sensible post on this thread.
Julesage +1
teigyr
offlineMember
Oooh Oneder, I'd be irked. There was no need to make a thread on that either, the 2nd thread that is. I've had the pleasure of meeting several MB people and my general rules are #1) don't out anyone, #2) if I need to say something to someone I "know" as in I know their e-mail address, I do it that way unless it's just silly forum stuff.
Now back to Argument Clinic. Step #1 is Abuse, after all.
SmartsyArtsy
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LIA, first you claimed that "someone". (Me) said YOU were irrevalent. That is untrue. Now you say that "someone" (me) said your beliefs are irrevalent. That is also untrue. What I said was your story about being 20-something and living in your car because your apt wasn't ready yet was irrelevant. YOUR STORY IS IRRELEVANT. Not YOU. Not a belief. Your STORY. Big difference. Now we have the truth in this thread.
Why is your story irrevalent? Because we were talking about homelessness. Try telling another person who has been homeless or who is homeless that story as being comparable and, i believe that if they have the confidence, they will also tell you that your story is irrelevant.
No meanness meant, I was outraged about your judgement.
Corvus
offlineMember
Racer mentioned ELO. I don't know if the band is what he was referring to. I just went with it.
lifeisamazing
offlineMember
I am so sorry. I feel stupid, I had no idea. I thought I was just passing on something that might protect other people without giving out any info that hadn't already been given out. As opposed to gushing any more of an apology here I'll send an email.
Corvus
offlineMember
Don't let Oneder bully you around. He did more to incriminate himself by linking to the two posts than you ever did to begin with. He likes the second chance for attention because nobody gave it a second thought to begin with.
racerX
offlineMember
Corvus, I was making a reference to the band. Ernie had posted a video: http://www.myballard.com/forum/topic.php?id=14962#post-202382
Hello
offlineMember
LIA - I don't think people are mean. They just think they are clever. Some folks like to spar and then feel the rush of an ego boost by pretending to misunderstand so they can grandstand and act offended so they can work out other issues. But overall, things are nice here.
BuffaloHawk
offlineMember
PG I am trying to stick with the theme but haven't been feeling this in forever.
great idea
offlineMember
you're obviously running out of material.
it's time for this theme to move on. maybe just add another letter.
BuffaloHawk
offlineMember
GI - I am not going to lie about it but lately Elmo gives me a creepy vibe.
great idea
offlineMember
he always gave me a creepy vibe--now it's justified!
BuffaloHawk
offlineMember
Good thing he never covered a Gary Glitter song that I know of.
lifeisamazing
offlineMember
Clever GI Hee
JM
offlineMember
I used to visit the Forum years ago for the petty crime reports, but it has evolved into a neighborhood chat room and that’s OK too. It looks like some people have time for gabbing all day.
Cate
onlineMember
My observation is that since the election is over people have actually been less mean/snarky/whatever. I thought the last two weeks were pretty civil compared to how we sometimes get.
plasticbags
offlineMember
It feels like so long since we had an official "I'm leaving MB" post. I long for the days of octopus stealing and EMVL. I was hoping the stroller in the park would turn out to be more exciting but it wasn't. As far as forums go, it's been pretty mild here.
teigyr
offlineMember
EMVL was epic.
allisonw
offlineMember
EMvL?
pennygirl
offlineMember
Evil Mini Van Lady.
great idea
offlineMember
evil mini-van lady.
if any of you have forgotten, she is the person that closed the door on another postal patron at the delivery drop-off.
oh the calamity. there has not been such an epic event in ballard in a few years.
yet it continues to get more dangerous by the second. fancy that!
MidWest
offlineMember
GO STEERLERS!
I'm leaving MB.
(only for a few hours though, think I'll go for a bike ride. Kinda looks like it might not rain, but the rain coat will still go along or the ride!)
I'm depressed now that I found out I live in Hillbilly land (Thanks PennyGirl). A ride should pick me up.
Oh while I'm here I will say my 2 cents about sarcasm. It's OK among friends I think, not the best but OK, but it's very easy to misinterpret and that's almost a guaranteed thing in print.
I personally am on a life long quest to at least limit my sarcasm, as I seem to be pretty good at it. I think there are much better ways to express yourself and that's what I'm working on.
GAM
offlineMember
I agree about sarcasm. 1der has been good about identifying its use in his posts, though having to identify sarcasm deflates it.
Bottom line, it is very tricky to use sarcasm in print, especially when so many readers here are quick to take affront and slow to give other folks the benefit of the doubt. Sarcasm and other witticism are fine things, and I love them, but they come across much better when spoken amongst people who already know your point of view.
This seems a good time to make a plea for folks to take a moment to breathe before they fly off the handle at some remark. Is it possible - oh, this is far fetched, I grant you - that perhaps there is room to give the benefit of the doubt to the writer?
As Carly Simon would say, I bet you think this post is about you.
You would say that.....HA!
now off for a bike ride
onederfullone
offlineMember
<---excellent use of sarcasm.../sarcasm
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