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   I stood behind you as the woman in the box offcie at The Majestic Bay told you that Zero Dark Thirty had A LOT of graphic violence. You asked if there was drug use or sex and when she said "No" you bought a ticket for your child to see an R rated movie.

   I sat in my seat as he yelled and cried during the first 10 minutes of the movie, then after your repeated "Be quiet Be Quiet!" did not keep your pre schoooler from crying after watching filmed torture didn't work I went out and asked for a ticket to see another movie. As did the people behind me. So The Bay had to refund at least 4 tickets, your child will probably have bad dreams for the rest of his life but hey you didn't have to pay for a sitter!

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   That's crazy. Protect the kids from sex, but violence is just fine. It's no wonder we're all killing each other.

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   Is it really considered out of line to politely ask the parents to either hush the child or take them outside until they calm down? You paid to enjoy the movie in a setting where the social expectation is that the audience remains quiet throughout the movie. I have no problem approaching someone in this situation and asking them to conform to these expectations, especially if I've chosen to see a grown-up movie. People seem to have no problem keeping rowdy teenagers inline with these expectations. At the very least, it would most certainly not be out of line to ask the Majestic Bay staff to approach the family. After all, it's what Tony Taglioni would have done!

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   I can't imagine that people so insensitive to how they're traumatizing their child will be sensitive to other audience members. That poor child!

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   I hear it's a crappy movie anyway.

   that little boy did you a favour.

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   Tony Taglioni +1

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   Quick somebody is smoking, and its irritating Ellen's eyes!

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   Heh, when I was 5 I saw a matinee of Rocky Horror Picture Show. I wasn't traumatized (by the inferred sex, there really isn't any violence). Then again, maybe that explains some things.

   For the most part, children (especially small ones) don't really "see" sex until they are at an age to comprehend it, but they know what violence is. In RHPS I thought I got the inferred sex, but wasn't certain. However, my take on the movie was "There are some guys who like to dress in women's clothing (which is fine) and they want the other people to dress in women's clothing, but they don't want to, so now they are all fighting." I thought it was sad when they were fighting. I didn't understand the transmogrification thing, so I didn't know why the strangers suddenly changed their minds about wearing women's clothing, but i thought it was GREAT that they were all getting along, and it was so sad when they stopped for some reason. Very sad when the head guy was dying.

   Why take a child to watch all this violence (way more than RHPS which is more campy cartoony) when it will probably just make them sad or upset? But god no, don't let them see two people getting along well enough to share bodies, that will corrupt them! WTF?

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   Why pay for movie with sex and drug use when driving down Aurora is free;)

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    Wouldn't that be considered child abuse and can't you call the police for that? I'm actually asking if anyone knows.
    If any one of us saw someone beating their child (I don't mean a swat on the butt) we would call the police and step in. Isn't this the same thing?

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    THIS:

    Why take a child to watch all this violence (way more than RHPS which is more campy cartoony) when it will probably just make them sad or upset? But god no, don't let them see two people getting along well enough to share bodies, that will corrupt them! WTF?

    is one of the biggest flaws in our culture, IMHO. Killing is glamorized and sex is taboo. Something is seriously backwards there....

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    OK, I'm not trying to be harsh but I have to ask. Why didn't you go to the manager? Why haven't you called the theater? I can understand not confronting the parents since that may have caused them to punish the child for "causing" their embarrassment but if every one of us reading this called and emailed the theater and said something about this they might change their policy regarding this as other theaters have.

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    ARE YOU KIDDING?!! What kind of idiot would bring a 5-yr old to a movie like this?!

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    "ARE YOU KIDDING?!! What kind of idiot would bring a 5-yr old to a movie like this?!"

    In case you haven't noticed, yet, we've got no shortage of selfish idiots.

    At least they always vote for 'the children', lmao.

    Our children are facebooked, fwiw.

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    Never ceases to amaze me though. =|

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    We need to unionize children, quickly...

    After we frisk them for bubble guns, of course. ;-)

    [sigh]

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    I can't wait for the day that someone gets called out on this forum and the culprit is an active member. That would make an entertaining argument hehe;)

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    It's happened already.

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    I wish the theatre could have controlled the access. If several people had requested theatre management to ask them to leave, that would have saved the child from seeing that violence. Really neglectful parents.

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    "I wish the theatre could have controlled the access."

    Where to start...

    First, it's theater. Period.

    Second, they did, they sold a ticket for the showing to an adult. If your five year old wanted to sneak out and see a showing he/she would be denied.

    I'd guess a public flogging of the five year old would follow. Good news, the adult(s) would emerge to be stupid tomorrow.

    btw, neglectful and stupid are so very inter-changeable, aren't they? lol

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    It's an R Rated movie. They should have known better.

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    "In case you haven't noticed, yet, we've got no shortage of selfish idiots.

    At least they always vote for 'the children', lmao.

    Our children are facebooked, fwiw."

    Yup. Some of the people screaming "but what about the children" the loudest are also the ones who don't want being a parent to conflict with their personal freedom. I see them pushing the strollers or walking the kids while on the cell phone and not interacting with the kids. They're also worried about their social lives (don't want to get a sitter) so the children go places that maybe they shouldn't go. Parenting seems to be pretty much a full time job only a lot of the ones I see don't really get that.

    Children can't go into an R rated movie even with parents, right? Someone should've said something.

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    That is much too much of a graphic scary movie to take a preschooler to...
    When I was around four or so my parents took me to see Walt Disney's Fantasia and I became uncontrollably terrified over the sorcerer's apprentice scene when the brooms and buckets got out of control, and the dramatic music did not help either. I still remember it to this day as a life changing event, if someone hands me a broom I scream bloody murder!
    OK, that is a little gorpy but WTF...

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    Get out oldguy. My parents took me to see Fantasia. Also 101 Dalmatians. Hang on. Aren't you a bit older than me? Exactly how old were you when you went to see Fantasia?!!!

    Edit: I was 3 or 4 :-)

    This is why I don't go to the cinema...

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    PG, Cinebarre is the answer. Everyone is over 21 and the theater personnel don't put up with crap even from the grown-ups.

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    Do they allow hillbillies in?

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    PG, they DO!!! They check IDs before they let you in but apparently they don't look at the addresses too carefully.

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    PG, can't get nothin' past you...

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    No oldguy! I checked and it came out way before I saw it! How about them Niners?!!

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    teigyr:

    It's only the NC-17 where kids are prohibited. I had to look it up. I was surprised.

    For the curious:
    http://www.mpaa.org/ratings/what-each-rating-means

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    Is that right GAM? Blimey.

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    These parents were obviously trying to teach their overly sensitive child a lesson about Arab terrorists and the importance of killing them. What could be more appropriate on MLK Eve? Well maybe a march on the state capital is a close second.

    Geeze people, this is America! Get on board or get out!

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    From the small print:
    "Generally, it is not appropriate for parents to bring their young children with them to R-rated motion pictures."

    Although, really, people need to be told this?

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    I always though the age meant the age. Like 13/17 etc. R - no no.

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    Porky's was the first movie I watched in a theater. I was 9. :)

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    Saw ZDT last week, lady behind me said loudly "Gee, do they drive on the left side in Pakistam?"

    PG, Niners are GOIN!!!

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    All the way!!!

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    pg - the original release of Fantasia was 1940 so I bet you saw it in a re-release while oldguy saw the first re-release. I was scared of the brooms and buckets too.

    LIA- Nope, it is not considered child abuse to take a young child to an "R" rated movie but if you are reported for it, it might cause the powers that be to look at the rest of your parenting more closely (or not, depending on how busy they are).

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    Who in there right mind take a kid to and R-rated movie when there is human poo to play with in the alley

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    I called the theater and talked to the manager. She said that they've gotten other calls regarding this and they are looking at changing their policy.

    While dogpiling to find out the laws I found an article talking about a theater chain in Chicago that is changing their policy regarding minors so it is happening.

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    so is this upsetting because the kid ruined the movie for others, or because he was traumatized?

    I've been to PG & G movies where some brats were chattering the entire time.

    maybe we can get kids banned from theaters permanently.

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    Woah, people. There are two issues here, one is moral and the other has to do with other people's rights/privileges.

    1) Should a child(baby) be seeing a scary movie when endorsed by the parents?
    2) A screaming child is infringing on YOUR privilege to see a scary movie.

    Should the theater allow a 5 year old in with his parents to watch an R rated movie? Yes, absolutely. It's not their place to judge. They do not have the right to parent your child or tell you how to parent your child. The parents are absolutely allowed to be what you think are crappy parents, because trying to legislate "good" parenting is a slippery slope and not possible. There are some lines we have drawn, but content of what they watch is not one of them, nor should it be.

    Should the theater allow the child to stay in the theater when he's screaming, crying, carrying on or generally disrupting the other customer's experience? NOPE. The parents should be asked to come out to the lobby and not be in the theater as long as their child is freaking out and if they can't get him under control in a reasonable period of time, they leave. No refund because it is not the theater's fault that the child is screaming. The theater has the right to kick them out and maybe they'll learn that it's a bad idea to take their toddler to a movie that will scare them, because at the very least they'll lose their money and not see the movie. Maybe they'll notice a pattern that he screams his head off when they see a violent movie and choose more wisely in the future.

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    I don't remember which theater but when I was small I went to a movie. There was a room glassed in upstairs that I was told parents with small children, babies sat so not to disturb the rest of the people.
    I can't imagine what this woman was thinking taking her child to see this movie. If anything she should have been asked to come back at another time w/o child.

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    gracie: Unfortunately, we just don't have those theaters anymore. Neither do we have drive ins. It might solve some of these issues if they did. Most of the time the parents just stay home and watch movies there because they can now, unlike in days gone past. Movie theaters now make less business because if you want to see a recent movie, you have lots of options.

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    Maybe the issue with the mother was she couldn't afford a babysitter or couldn't find a babysitter.
    And drive ins - I loved drive ins. Wish that would come back.

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    I think the issue is the parents were idiots. But if it were not for people like them, we would not know how good we are, so what are you going to do...

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    I'd prefer we raise the bar, but I'm not drunk enough yet.

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    Everybody LIMBO!!!! ;)

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    Limbo would be lowering the bar, fwiw.

    Not that it's a bad thing, and we could be a contender.

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    referring to where we are at the moment. i too would be it to be raised... my knees are killin' me!

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    You could be a brother...

    I won't tell anyone.

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    This thread just became like that Eastwood film Unforgiven. All of sudden it turned into a couple of broken down old men cowboys staring each other down.

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    the parents could've, should've just stayed home to corrupt their child.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgOWTM5R2DA

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    +1 Phoo. Since R means "no one under 17 WITHOUT A PARENT" there probably wasn't a lot the theater could legally do to prevent them from going in. And unfortunately you can't legislate stupid. And I wouldn't be surprised if they kicked them out for yelling since they couldn't kick them out for being rubbish parents.

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    MyBallard Forum = Helping imperfect parents become perfect parents;)

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    I'm confused also.

    Were you upset that the parents took the kid to the movie? If so I think you need to mind your own business.

    Were you upset that the kid was making a disturbance? If that was the case either ask them to be quiet or alert theater staff. Kind of a p***y move to just leave and see a different film, but not surprising.

    Either way, you look pretty in the wrong to me.

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    When we went to see Prometheus there were at least 10 kids under the age of 7 in the audience. Good luck to those idiot parents next time their little spawn has a tummy ache. We left our kids at home with the baby sitter.

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    Not to sound heartless, but this was one of the things that really bothered me in the aftermath of the Denver theater shootings. As horrific as it was that a 6 year old was killed, nobody seemed (willing?) to question that a SIX YEAR OLD was at a VIOLENT movie at MIDNIGHT...

    oldguybc, that part of Fantasia scared the s&!% out of me... I still hate that movie.

    There are still a few 'crying rooms' around, but I think only in the Landmark Theaters?

    (On a side rant, ironically enough, the multiplex at Alderwood use to offer "Mom Movies" when my oldest was small - and they were *frequently* rated R/violent pictures. Apparently they thought that was what moms wanted to take their sleeping babies to???)

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    As horrific as it was that a 6 year old was killed, nobody seemed (willing?) to question that a SIX YEAR OLD was at a VIOLENT movie at MIDNIGHT...

    Actually, as out of line as it was to to blame the victims of a crazed murderer by implying that they contributed to thier childs death because they were out past midnight at a late movie, there were all kinds of people who were willing to question it:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/lisa-belkin/aurora-shootings_b_1692186.html?utm_source=Alert-blogger&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Email%2BNotifications

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/living/colorado-babies-movie-theaters/index.html?iid=article_sidebar

    Apparently a lot of people were willing to question the CNN article as there were 3204 comments.

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    Do you have kids Ernie?

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