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Started 2 months ago by gracie
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http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=508650612519933&set=a.214427898608874.68435.193088090742855&type=1&ref=nf

I saw this on Facebook & was floored that there are people out there so ignorant. There was a Black History Month luncheon today at work and everyone was invited. I learned so much during that hour about the Black history of the U.S. and the workers personal experiences in life and not to mention the food was wonderful. One gal told me about coming to Seattle and seeing her first Filipino. In my case when I was about 9 a Black girl moved into our neighborhood & we became best friends. Some ignorant neighbor wrote the "N" word and "go back to where you belong" on their garage. I asked my mom what "N" meant & remember her saying they are just ignorant people who do not know better. Unfortunately the harassment continued and they were forced to move.

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Compass Rose

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She's a Tea Party member. Most of them are ignorant racists. It's depressing how many stupid people there are in this country.

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iPlod

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gracie, did they mention the first U.S. citizen to settle in Washington? George Bush. (No, I'm not joking.)

He was a free black who settled in what is now known as Bush Prairie just south of Tumwater. And that's just a small part of the story.

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Mondoman

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Wow, I'm surprised at the depth of your knowledge of Tea Party folks, CR. It must have taken years of extensive study and travel to do your research.

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teigyr

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Stereotyping. Am not one but am against the stereotype, that goes for all groups.

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Compass Rose

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Sorry, Mondo, but that's pretty much all I've seen and heard from them.

Here's some data that does nothing to refute that perception:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2010/04/25/are-tea-partiers-racist.html

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pennygirl

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I really think that this thread shouldn't exist. It's all going to go wrong very very soon.

Posted 2 months ago #
teigyr

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Not to mention when you perpetuate something hateful even under the guise of "this is hateful" it still perpetuates it.

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Compass Rose

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True, PG. This thread has the potential to turn very nasty. I'm ducking out of it right now.

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Ernie

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She's a Tea Party member. Many of them are ignorant racists. It's depressing how many stupid people there are in this country.

I fixed it for you CR.

Mondoman did you click the link? She posted a picture of a "trap" for the POTUS featuring a watermelon as bait, FFS. How is that supposed to be interpreted?

Until the teahadists are willing to denounce their members who, repeatedly, do and say stupid racist shit like this, they can labor under whatever stereotype that happens to develop.

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BuffaloHawk

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I didn't realize Ted Nugent had access to spray paint;).. Seriously not a good "COMMUNITY" topic..... fwiw

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The so called 'tea party' won't exist in another couple elections and then the majority of them can go back to being plain old ignorant jackoff racist patsies with out a cool patriotic sounding name.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/11/1186268/-Koch-Planning-Tea-Party-Since-2002-New-Research-Paper-Reveals#

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Ernie, I didn't click the link as I got the impression it would be without redeeming value. Looks like I was right, and that sadly the thread followed in that tradition.

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onederfullone

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"Most of them are ignorant racists."

I really can't remember a more ignorant statement here, ever, and there have been so many, but you take the facebooking cake w/ this.

http://www.myballard.com/forum/topic.php?id=15544

You should be banned for maligning a business.

But, I propose you be spared, just to demonstrate our collective acceptance of absolute stupidity, ignorance, and your particular breed of racism, which includes everyone besides your stupid ass.

I will remind you often, count on it bitch.

Posted 2 months ago #
MidWest

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Ernie +5

The Teabaggers are part of the progression Lee Atwater described, from calling people "Nigger" in the 1950's, to "Forced Busing" in the '60's and '70's, to "Welfare Queens" in the 1980's. Now it's diluted to "Socialist", and "Big Government", as Atwater predicted before he passed away, since they can't say "Nigger" anymore in public.

Sad that the John Birch Society has taken over the Republican party, and squeezed out all the rational, sane, intelligent people. Reagan now counts as a "Commie", and David Stockman is no doubt an alien to the current crop. Liked the smart ones-may they return someday.

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Ipod, NOT strictly true. George Bush WAS an early settler in what would BECOME Washington State, but Marcus and Narcissa Whitman started a mission in Walla Walla TEN YEARS before Mr. Bush (and the other five families in that party) got to Washington State.

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onederfullone

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MidWest, you just described every Democrat, and carry on the banner of stupid.

People tend to see further when given any opportunity. Your goal, along with LA, is to shut them down, like blinders on a pack mule. Good Luck /sarcasm.

You gotta fit a mold, or you are broken.

facebook your mold. I'm a fucking snowflake.

Posted 2 months ago #
gracie

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Ernie - the purpose of that link was the stupidity of this person showing "how to trap the president" with a watermelon. Out and out racism. That was my point.

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onederfullone

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I once went as far as to veto a tip jar that was embossed with watermelon slices, fwiw.

I felt it was incosiderate, as it was intended to be a collection for a neighbor who was beaten, who was black.

Some will never survive this era of inconsiderate thought, some will.

I'll let you know how this era went, fwiw.

Some call this President an idiot.

I won't assume they are racist, like everyone else. I'll assume they are paying attention.

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MidWest

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Awwww shucks, angrrrrfullone, I feel your love, honey. So sad you're such an angry little soul.

More from Lee Atwater, advisor of U.S. Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush and chairman of the Republican National Committee, on the so-called "Southern Strategy":

"You start out in 1954 by saying, “Nigger, nigger, nigger.” By 1968 you can’t say “nigger”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “Nigger, nigger.”"

From the article:

http://www.thenation.com/article/170841/exclusive-lee-atwaters-infamous-1981-interview-southern-strategy

Yes folks, racism is alive and well in the USA, and has a happy home in the modern Republican party, particularly in the Teapublican wing, sad to say. These days, it's more about "Brown" people, than about "Black" people. Rinse, repeat.

John Birch Society all over again.

Posted 2 months ago #
gracie

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Onder - you have been really angry lately. I hope there isn't something going on in your life that is causing this. I worry that you are using so much energy to vent this anger. Peace to you.

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onederfullone

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give me a break, Gracie, I say what is true.

I'm not angry.

Although, I will say that dealing with idiots tries my patience, I still care enough to say so.

I will let you know about what I know. Maybe you'll forgive me.

Posted 2 months ago #
gracie

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Sorry if I offended you. Not the intention.

Posted 2 months ago #
Edog

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I love you oneder! You are my bestest online homie!

Posted 2 months ago #
allisonw

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Racism is one of the planks of the TP platform. To deny that is to miss a vital part of their "Take America Back" (from minorities) message. Sorry Teigyr, I'm only saying what others won't.

Anecdote: a very dark-skinned coworker of mine (who is himself from TN) was in the Orlando airport and he tried to chat up the TP people (just out of curiosity) and they all scattered like the rats that they are. No one would talk to him.

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Compass Rose

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"Surveyers asked respondents in California and a half dozen battleground states (like Michigan and Ohio) a series of questions that political scientists typically use to measure racial hostility. On each one, Tea Party backers expressed more resentment than the rest of the population, even when controlling for partisanship and ideology. When read the statement that 'if blacks would only try harder, they could be just as well off as whites,' 73 percent of the movement's supporters agreed, while only 33 percent of people who disapproved of the Tea Party agreed. Asked if blacks should work their way up 'without special favors,' as the Irish, Italians, and other groups did, 88 percent of supporters agreed, compared to 56 percent of opponents. The study revealed that Tea Party enthusiasts were also more likely to have negative opinions of Latinos and immigrants."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2010/04/25/are-tea-partiers-racist.html

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@ Jules,

Yes, the Whitman missionaries were barely over the line into Washington somewhat earlier than Bush, but they were after harvesting souls, instead of crops like Mr. Bush. And look where it got them. I wouldn't call them settlers. Just my opinion.

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onederfullone

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"Tea Party backers expressed more resentment than the rest of the population,"

Well, that is simply a facebooking shock. /sarcasm.

Those crafty little polsters must've taken their poll before you Occupy asses got up.

Lets take polls about who is more awake when it matters, I gaurantee, they will be most pissed.

You, yes you, need to wake up.

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"Anecdote: a very dark-skinned coworker of mine (who is himself from TN) was in the Orlando airport and he tried to chat up the TP people (just out of curiosity) and they all scattered like the rats that they are. No one would talk to him."

Ha ha! allisonw, please tell your friend I wish I could have seen that.

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allisonw

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I wish I could have seen it too. Collier looks a bit like a college prof, with a bald head and rimless glasses. He's probably about 50, (not that I can tell--the man never ages) and not exactly gangsta.

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Allison, they were probably scattering because he looked intelligent more than his skin. In fact the combination probably short-circuited their one or two synapses and their legs were just functioning on random nerve impulses.

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Corvus

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Rezomblicans? Late to the brain party?

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allisonw

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Oh dear lord, I didn't think of that. The point that he appears literate AND possibly non-white must have had them running for the Ayn Rand Cliff Notes.

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Black Conservatives Rebut Tea Party Racism Claims
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd71TEn5E6o

Tea Party Racism??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1CLPhz0DHM

The existence of the black people speaking in these videos proves most of you wrong about the Tea Party. They prove you are the ignorant people.

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Edog

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Presenting the presence of blacks in the tea party as an inoculation of racism and bigotry shows you don't understand how complicated race is in this world. Charlie's statement is literally the dumbest and most ignorant thing I've ever read on the forum.

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Compass Rose

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The study was specifically about RACIAL resentment, One. Try reading the story.

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gracie

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Sadly I don't think there will ever be elimination of racism. But I would hope that people would not see color but a person. I do. I was in Sand Point, Idaho few years ago. I went into cafe that was like a truck driver stop because heard food really good. It was almost full, lots of loud talking. Then there was a lull & people looking up. I looked up & there was a family with one black guy with them. If looks could kill it was from some of those locals. They literally glared and quit talking, just staring. The family sat next to me and turns out girl was engaged to the black guy. They were totally aware of what was going on but ignored them. They engaged in conversation with me & they were the nicest people you could meet.

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I actually try VERY hard to avoid ANYthing from the daily beast. If I want blatant satire, I prefer the onion.

But I do appreciate the attraction of kool-aid in a crystal punch bowl.

You called millions of people racist and ignorant. You specifically, willfully, stridently, joined the club of ignorance and racism.

Aint you special. /sarcasm.

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Compass Rose

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Uh, how exactly is referring to a group predominated by white people racist?

Never mind. Debating with you is like trying to talk sense into a hamster.

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gracie

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*L* CR!

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charliecooper

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@Edog: If you saw the videos, they are saying there is no racism and bigotry in the Tea Parties. In fact, one person in the video is a graphic designer and says he knows how the "racist" signs are photoshopped. (You would know this already if you watched the videos.) Also, we are not talking about "how complicated race is in this world." We are talking about people making false accusations about the Tea Parties. Attacking me doesn't change the videos or the fact that people of many races are in the Tea Parties.

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(double post)

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onederfullone

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"Uh, how exactly is referring to a group predominated by white people racist?"

When you call it racist.

I can't explain why people opposed to a perpetual nipple sucking idiot mentality via their tax dollar while debt is completely ignored are portrayed as mostly white by folks of your ilk. Not to mention, ignorant as well.

I always assume its mostly folks paying attention and I love and support them.

"Never mind. Debating with you is like trying to talk sense into a hamster."

Ditto, and Waldo would love to make your acquaintance.

Me, I'm too busy.

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gracie

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Tea Party or not - it prevails everywhere. Not just someone in the Tea Party. Not fair to group all of them as racists. Just in the case of the "trap for the president of the U.S." seems she is in the tea party. No matter what the group, organization, company there always seems to be a bad apple.

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allisonw

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That's really insulting to hamsters. Especially the smart ones.

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Edog

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Charlie you said "The existence of the black people speaking in these videos proves most of you wrong about the Tea Party. " My comment was a direct response to your remarks, not links, you posted. The videos are irrelevant

Additionally I called your remarks ignorant and dumb, not you.

As for what this discussion is about, you are not the arbiter of that. Its seems to me this thread is about ignorance as it has been observed in the Tea Party. You want to defend that go ahead paint by numbers.

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gracie

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Edog, when I posted this to me it wasn't about a Tea Party person being so ignorant. It was about a PERSON being ignorant and unfortunately was identified as Tea Party person.

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onederfullone

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"It was about a PERSON being ignorant and unfortunately was identified as Tea Party person."

While unfortunate, Gracie, it was intentional. Why else would a lie go viral?

"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on."

We don't believe in pants anymore, so I'll offer this little nugget from my boys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcDNilZbZg8

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gracie

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onder--I looked on line & could not find anything that showed it was a hoax or not. But to me, like I've said before and before, I wasn't focused on whether tea bagger or not - it was others here - my focus is whoever did this it was totally racist. So feel like you do. Your opinion which you are entitled to.

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Compass Rose

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The Tea Party is not simply "portrayed as mostly white people," Hamster. It IS overwhelmingly white.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20002529-503544/tea-party-supporters-who-they-are-and-what-they-believe/

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gracie

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Onede - I did more searching and Jennifer Olsen is denying she did this. And if this is so, WHOEVER did this, hiding behind her name and affiliation, is a racist coward.
Again the subject here from me was intended about racism - not a political affiliation.

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onederfullone

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Okay, Gracie, I believe you.

Forgive my daggers in route, can't call them back either.

"It IS overwhelmingly white."

It's detractors are mostly white, does that make them any less racist?

Nope, it just makes them stupid.

If I get any spare time, I'll line up folks off-white to tell you how facebooking ignorant you really are.

Oh, I see it's already been done, but you are too stupid to find it.

Or, don't care, same difference.

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If you're curious about your implicit attitudes about race, religion, social issues, mental health or a variety of other issues, Harvard is studying the topic and you can take their tests.
https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/demo/takeatest.html

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you people all bore me.

I hope the sequestration forces this site to shut down tomorrow.

Posted 2 months ago #
onederfullone

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I know, but according to the latest Presidential tour, everything will end tomorrow.

Tonight is ours, and I won't even set my alarm clock.

Of course, 'el presidente of nipple sucking idiots' could be totally wrong, but I'm sleeping in regardless.

Yes, brown_eyes, I was VERY curious about it. Maybe we just don't get it?

yep. But what else would such a study implicitly say? Harvard...isn't that, like, top ten for domestic drone strikes?

It sure as hell should be, right after Evergreen.

(did he say domestic drone strikes??) No, that will never happen /sarcasm.

Listen, nipple heads, trot out every link you'd like, it doesn't alter anything but your ability to perceive the obvious.

The TEA party seeks nothing but to save your sorry asses.

Yes, I said, sorry asses.

Call it what you must, you sorry asses, but you can't prove your savior is racist.

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allisonw

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Good lord, you are offensive.

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onederfullone

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It took you over a minute to say that, impressive.

Maybe if you took several more, you could come up with something substantive?

lmfao.

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Edog

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Oneder - This is the worst I've ever seen you. I say this to you as a neighbor, maybe you should step away from the computer for a while.

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Corvus

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I've got plenty more hats, Flounder (aka Hamster). Care to make another wager? Your precious so called 'tea party' which isn't a real political party in the first place, won't exist in 3 (2 year) election cycles. In fact in the next mid-term, most candidates will be denying they ever had any real involvement with it.

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The best part is, the teabagger candidates that won primaries got stomped in the general elections, costing the right wing bigtime, in seats, and in money.

Watch the right wing civil war and meltdown, as Karl Rove, Dick Armey, and the Koch brothers all fight each other.

Perhaps real Republicans; real conservatives will step into the vacuum, and take the party back to sanity and reason away from the psychos.

Would be nice. No more holding the USA hostage for petulant BS.

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