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CANNOT BELIEVE WHAT JUST HAPPENED TO ME AT THE POST OFFICE IN BALLARD

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Started 3 years ago by thewiseone
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I was dropping some mail off at the outside post office box. I didnt pull all the way up to the post office box. I was close by a foot or two. A lady in this mini van pulls up behind me. I got out to drop my mail in the box because I did not have anyone in the passenger side to put it in the mail box for me. She gets out of her car and she is ticked off and states why didnt you pull up all the way up to the box. I said because I need to get out and put my mail in the box. I told her to drop her attitude. That ticked her off. I got back in my car and she took her hand and tried to close my door!!! I had my hand on the door and she hurt it by trying to close my door. I didn't get her license plate because she was behind me and it was dark. I cannot believe this violence would occur in Ballard! Still very shocked by her attitude and how she handled it. I would of called the cops right away but it happened so fast. She was bigger than myself and I need to defend for myself so I shut the door and got in my vechicle and drove away. She was about 5'8", dark hair (brown) striaght medium lengeth and big build. I am so upset!

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Wow! She must have really been having a bad day! Even if you did pull up and/or had a passenger to drop the mail she still would have had to wait for you to finish.

*hug*

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well that sure sucks....

definately crossed a boundry there. wish you'd have slapped her silly, personally. i know i know violence is bad.

sorry. hope your weekend looks up from here.

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I don't mean to critisize (because what she did was totally unacceptable on every level0 but, I have found that sometimes killing them with kindness works best. Instead of saying "Hey, drop the attitude!" I might have said (and not terribly sincerely I am afraid) "I am SO SORRY, I didn't see you. I certainly did not mean to inconvenience you..." go on long enough and people like this will feel like comeplete and utter idiots and ashamed of their behavior. Trust me it works.

However, there really is no excuse for her behavior, at all. None.

How is the hand? File a police report anyway...that way if you see her again (most likely she lives here or works here) you can then turn her in. Take pics of your hand if it is bruised.

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De-escalation would have been your best tactic. Telling her she had an attitude was a mistake (that shows a bit of attitude on your part as well, doesn't it?).

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I said drop the attitude because she was very rude in the way she was talking to me. I dont put up for people acting like that towards me. I am concerned about myself. At night it is dark..I am not going to act silly and say something polite! Her attitude is what brought me to say "drop the attitude". Otherwise I would not of said that to her. It is what happened that brought that on and her actions. She was very, very rude and she had the attitude. That is why I said what I did. She in turn had NO RIGHT in shoving my door and hurting my hand! That is violence and I will not put up with that! My hand is not bruised...it is sore and just hurts. I just cant imagine people would act like this.

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I wouldn't have because I'm too much of a wimp, but I see nothing wrong in defending yourself against this psycho biatch. Your not pulling up inconvenienced her by, what, a minute and a half? Meanwhile her retaliation took twice that long.

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eric

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that area makes people nuts, i will say. i despise driving near that PO. especially around the holidays.

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bellie

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I understand drawing the line with rude people, but having them do something unacceptable in response is the risk you take if you are rude as well. She shouldn't have assaulted you--that was wrong. I definitely would have made a point of getting a license plate number and calling 911,

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Again i did not say anything that was rude. I was defending for myself. It was DARK out and I was by myself as a female. I will stand up for myself ...let me make that clear! All I said was drop the attitude. YOU have to remember Bellie she had the attitude first. She is the one to say to me and act rude to me. I feel that saying drop the attitude is not rude in anyway...I AM SORRY TO BURST YOUR BUBBLE! Again let me make clear....THIS SHOULD NOT OF HAPPENED IN THE FIRST PLACE. Violence and attitude is not acceptable in anyway and that does goes both ways and for both of us i do agree. In this case she harrased myself. I did not harrass her...once she took her hand and shoved my door...that was it! I was furious dont get me wrong. All i did was drive off. I should of got her license plate but it was dark and i wanted to get away from that lady....i am talking PSYCHO ....AND SOME OTHER WORDS I WILL NOT SAY!!

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OMG ! Sorry to hear this. I think you should fill out a report and include as much detail as you can remember. It's always possible that others have had run ins with the same lady and the police might just have an idea as to who it was. If she keeps getting away with this type of behavior her 'tude might become even more aggressive and abusive. If she thinks it's ok to close your car door on your hand then what's to stop her from ramming other cars when she doesn't like how they are parked....or picking someone off in a crosswalk because she thinks they are moving too slow ?

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I am not a person that likes to involve the police unless it is something drastic or major. I wanted to bring it up to the community and let everyone in Ballard know what happened and how we have to be careful. You never know what you will encounter when you walk out your door every morning, noon or night. Just have a strong head and make decisions wisely. Be safe everyone out there! :-D

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She shouldn't have touched your car and sorry bout the hand. However, you are concerned with your safety at night and you tell a complete agitated stranger to "drop the attitude?" Not a smart move on your part, who knows how a person would react to that comment.

I for one will admit to getting irritated at that mail box.People either park there or they are busy stamping or doing whatever in front of the mailbox. (There isn't much space on that little road.) I wish they would put another mailbox or maybe another one across the street. I am tall enough where I can reach over the passenger seat and throw the mail in, but not all people are tall like me.

As for the police, this in my opinion is way too minor to involve the law. They have other pressing issues to focus on. Just my two cents.....

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I guess I'm a little confused by this point of this post. Is it to warn us that there are mentally unbalanced, potentially violent strangers out in the world? I think I've figured that out. Is it to not poke the mentally unbalanced and potentially violent strangers with a stick (verbally speaking) and provoke them into violence? Yup, got that too.

Sure, she was totally out of line. She said something rude, you said something she took as rude back, and thus the situation escalated. I'm not saying don't stick up for yourself, but you need to be prepared to follow it all the way through if you do, IE, put the car in park, and call the police. Instead you high tailed it and ran.

Now, I wasn't there. It's not fair for me to judge how much you felt you were really in immenient danger from here. However, it seems that there's been a trend lately of people posting that there was some rude/mean/violent/theiving/generally bad person doing something they didn't like, and they seem to expect someone else to do something else about it because they were too scared/angry/upset/tired at the time. The homeless people having sex below my balcony would have gotten a gallon of cooking oil dumped on them.

You say she was violent and psycho, yet that didn't justify calling the police? Sounds like she assaulted you, and really shook you up, but that didn't justify calling the police? If it wasn't a big enough deal for you to take the time call the police and deal with it at the time, what do you expect anyone else to do?

This all strikes me as rather hypocritical and passive aggressive. In one breath it's "Take Back Our Parks!" and the next it's "Someone was mean to me, someone else do something about it!" Thewiseone-I don't mean for you take the brunt of my rant, I'd just love to see less complaining and more posts about people actually DOING something about the things that bother them so much.

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Well said MissK!!!!

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Big D

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and WB!!!

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Nora Bell

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Maybe she should have called the police, but it sounded like a minor altercation. I wouldn't have bothered the cops with this. But I don't see this as a 'Someone was mean to me, someone else do something about it.'
To me this reads as a warning to neighbors. Like, hey, watch out for this crazy lady at the post office! Now I'll be watching my back when I drop mail off.

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Wildernessbarbie...you just erked me the wrong way. I posted this on the Ballard Blog because we are free to post anything on this blog. That is why we live in AMERICA. I posted this because I feel people need to know about this. It was someone who acted out and was violent towards me. Is this what Ballard is coming to? People that get upset because i did not move my vehichle all the way up to the post office box? seriously come on Windernessbarbie what do you think? For people to act out of hand and be verbal with someone who is just trying to drop off her mail after work. Why couldnt this lady just wait until her turn? it didnt matter if i pulled up and leaned over...i still needed to put my mail in the box first! she had to wait her turn anways. She was unpatient and not willing to wait. It was her fault...she was impatient and took it out on me because she had a hard day, her dog was let out, her daughter fell. I really dont care what happend to that lady. The point being is i had to drop off my mail. i was first with my vehicle...wheter i pulled up a little further or stop where i was at...i was first ...she was second. Pepole do post good things that happen on here...it is also good to let people know about Sh** like this to. I am sorry you feel offended ...but i as a AMERICAN feel i have every right to post this.

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"I am concerned about myself" Sounds as if she is also.

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merlette

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I am sorry that you had a bad day and then when you tried to share your bad day with friends they jumped on you and tried to make it your fault. Sometimes people forget to just listen and say, "wow, that sucks!"

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thewiseone was ranting about something that happened to her in the neighborhood. She's permitted to do that on this forum. It's so easy to say what you would have done if it happened to you, but alas that's irrelevant because it didn't happen to you.

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my favorite thing to do when a stranger is being inappropriately rude to me is to wave, smile and say "C U Next Tuesday!" and then walk away. I've only done it a couple times, and I'm not sure it's ever registered with anyone yet because I get confused looks more than anything.
the best part is that if they don't already know what it means its one of those things that they probably figure out right as they are about to fall asleep

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yachtrocked that is a good one! i will remember that next time! just to have this happen all in about 1 min was schocking...something that i was not ready to expect..something that caught me off guard. it happened and i will move on. but it did hurt me that someone would be so mean to me! i was just trying to drop off my mail! ekk! you have to remember that i was hurt...she hurt my hand...i had my hand on the door i was trying to close it...she was pushing my door close....thank god she did not have a knife or anything! that would of been a different situation! God was looking out for me...

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I think people are waaaaay too sensitive these days. We are becoming a contradictory society. On one hand, we are all in it for ourselves, but then when someone says something we don't agree with, we yell "YOU'RE NOT BEING NICE TO ME!!!" "I count and I matter and damn it it's all about me me me me." UGH!

The agitated lady sounds like she was at the end of a Friday, wanted to get home, needed to stop at the post office and the mail box wasn't convienent for her at that moment. Granted she shouldn't have touched your car, but your lucky that's all she did. Watch what you say, you may not like the response you get. We are in America....Just sayin......

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Thanks merlette, Mindy, BriarRose, NoraBell, Heardonthe44 and Eric ...for the encouraging words. I can go to bed at peace now and get some rest.

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I felt missk my response to her was fine. Please do not tell me what i should and should not say. my response to her was what i felt was appropriate at the time. sorry you feel the way you do. you were not in the situation missk. i wish people that respond to these postings negatively were in the situation themselves. i did everything that i felt i needed to do in this situation. i protected myself. she was a big lady....she could of punched..broke my window or dented my vehicle...if that was the situation i would of acted differently...its a free world defend for yourself..its called America! what else do you have to say missk im listening? bring it on? did i offend you by saying that?

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just kick the lady in the nuts next time =)

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Your right Mindy. Everyone is guessing what happened. For all we know, thewiseone said Go #### youself instead of "drop the attitude", and she/he got confronted. It's irrevelant. However, if thewiseone thought a crime occurred she should have called the police instead of the rant on MyBallard (Keep an eye out for this TYPE of person!). If the person who injured her arm was a menace to society, the authorities should know about it. Get a LP# and call the police.

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No offense taken, I can now see why she did what she did. Good luck to you, seems like you'll need it. Good Grief!!

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Over the years I've learned when to pick my battles. Life is short. If this is an intolerable situation, thewiseone, then you have every right to vent and seek redress. Otherwise, you need to move on, enjoy the freedom to move around without duress--most of the time. I'm very sorry for your confrontation. Rest well and may tomorrow be one of the better times of your life.

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Missk i dont need good luck. i just brought this up to let people know if ballard what people are like. you seem offended by what happened to me. you obviously dont care that i got hurt. i did not ask to get hurt tongiht. i was just dropping off my mail. sorry you do not understand that. i do not need any luck. sorry you yourself have hard feelings towards people that try to help the community and do good deeds. i would have to second guess you missk as one of those people.

BiGD you are right i could of said what you said. but i didnt. i am honest in telling what happened. why would i come on a blog...post and lie...there are probably idiots out there that would do that. i am not one. i am an honest american and something bad happened to me tonight. i hope nothing like this happens to anyone else. you are right bigd if i thought a crime was commited i would of called the cops. she injured my hand and verbally abused me..yeah you could say i should of called the cops for harassment...i dont get involved with the cops unless it is something i feel i should call the cops about..i did what i felt was important.

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I'm sorry thewiseone. You are o.k. Some people are horrible. Don't let others (people or those on the blog) make you feel bad. I would feel the same way. When that happens, you feel sad, violated and angry. Remember always, what goes around comes around. That gets me through life. Bad things end up happening to bad paeople.

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I don't condone that lady's rudeness but if somebody said "drop the attitude" to me (which is rude in return), and I was already cranky, boy would that escalate the situation. That is like sticking your hand in a nest of bees and not expecting a reaction. I'm not saying you who was right and wrong here, not saying people don't have a right to post and respond, etc etc. Just sayin'.

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Too right, Mindy. None of us really know what we would do in these situations until it happens to us.
Try to enjoy your evening, TheWiseOne.

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kyle...i choose my words in respect of the situation. i felt at that time her attitude was not acceptable..those were my words and it was used at the time and i would not take back those words. i am a "fighter" not in literal words..i stand up for what i believe is right...some will not agree with me and that is fine...that is why we live in america...i respect you not liking what i said to that lady kyle..but that is what i felt i needed to say at the time. i have spoke what and how i feel. people think and say what u want it is a free world. to those of you who dont care about my hand...its ok..i dont need you to care..it is not a caring world..i know that...not everyone is the same.....Peace to all of you....sorry for peps that cant stand or dont like what i stated...

DDF you rock! ok going to bed now! i think ;-) Good night to all!

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Rest. You are o.k. Remember, always remember, what goes around, come around.

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I'd love to know that has happened in our society ....wehn people cannot be even maringally polite to each other. Once again, the wiseone, I am not attacking YOU, nut saying "drop the attitude" is absolutely a guarantee to escalate the situation. To steal a phrase, "them;s fighting words." It just is. That other woman was waaaayyyyyy out of line, on every level, but infuriating an already pissed off person is bound to end badly. Wouldn't it be just as easy to say "oh, I'm sorry, I'll be gone in a minute." When you say "drop the attitude" to a person who is already rude and aggressive, you are escalating the situation....how did you think the ohter person might respond? With a heartfelt apology>? I think not.

When in dount, take the high road...you are "a fighter, who stands up for what I believe in"....oK, but this situation could have in fact become much worse than it already was. ( Iam NOT excusing this woman's behavior, which is inexfusable, BTW."

Whatever happened to saying "I'm sorry, I'll be out of your way in a minute."

I am reminded of an incident that happened to me at Sip 'N' Ship, of which I am not proud. I had about 15 things I needed to ship, and I had stuff all over the counter. Some woman came in with a present, and instead of using the rest of their very large counter, put it right on top of a bunch of photos of mine I was mailing. (there was at least 4 feet of empty counter she could have used.) I moved her package off of my photos, and this woman said to me "don't touch my package! Are you taking up ENOUGH of the counter?" She was uber-aggressive, and very rude. At first I said "well, I was here first, and I have a lot of packages to send." She escalated the conversation in a manner similar to what you did, and frankly, I came unglued and used language that would have made a trucker blush. Was I in the right? Yes, I was....I was ther first. It could have gotten a lot uglier. Later, I thought about MY behaviour and even thought SHE was the instigator, she really, really pushed my buttons. When I left I was very, very angry. Was I in the fight? Yes. Was she rude? Yes. Did this end well? Not really.

And I'll bet you pushed hers\uttons with that phrase....not that what she did was OK in any way.

But what I am trying to say here is : what has happened to our society that this kind of exchange is becoming the norm? What happened to being polite to other people? As far as I can tell from your post, both of you were aggressive "I am a fighter"... I think we all need to step back and start being more polite to each other. I am sorry that you got hurt. But can;t we all try to be a little bit more considerate?As my grandma used to say: you catch a lot more flies with honey than vinegar." And speaking as someone who I'll bet is a lot older than you, in my experience, "killing them with kindness" works better than being aggressive. Think about it....she was rude and aggressive to you, you are rude and aggressive back...she ups the ante by hurting you...this could have ended even more badly than it did.

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Your story is confusing... please explain.... you pulled up a few feet a way from the curb, and left your driver side door open?

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Big D

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Jules.... Awesome post!!! I wish I could rec it.

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Thewiseone-First, you are not free to post anything you like on this blog. Posts have been removed for violating the TOU. This is a public forum, not your personal diary.

Second, why do you feel "we" need to know about this? So we can be on the look out for some cranky 5'8" woman in a mini-van? And do what about it exactly? Do you really think she lurks about the post office waiting to prey on others?

Third, Have you read this forum or watched the news lately? You "can't believe this violence would happen in Ballard?" Why on earth not? A bartender was stabbed recently over a tab. What makes Ballard so special that you don't think angry people would react violently when spoken to in a hostile way? You still don't seem to see that you played a role in escallating the situation. You say that you're "a fighter." Well, then that's what you get then, fights.

Look, I'm a 5'1" fiesty red-head. I can't stand rude people. I speak up too, however there's an effective way, and a way that will make things worse. It sounds like you choose the latter. I was in a very crowded bar recently when this girl got all up in my face about how my friends and I had stolen her and her friends's seats. They had been standing at the bar and outside smoking for 20 minutes, sorry, no reserved seating. She was very confrontational, but I held my ground, even when she threw herself on the bench seat half in my lap. She ended up apologizing and it was all good. If I had said "drop the attitude" there probably would have been a fight, and it would have been partly my fault, regardless of who "started" it. Can you not see that?

Finally, if you had posted-"Wow, I went to the post office, and this woman pulled this crazy b*tch act on me and it totally freaked me out and put me into fight or flight mode and I wish I had reacted better... does any one have any suggestions on how to handle situations like that better in the future?" I think you'd find this thread full of helpful suggestions (like yachtrocked's). But you didn't, and thus, because "this is America" and all, we are also welcome to post (just about) any response we like. It doesn't just work one way.

Am I sorry that there are people like that out there, and that you had to deal with one? Sure, of course. But let's try some perspective. You poked a hornets nest and came away with a sore hand and bruised ego. It could have been much worse. If that's the worst thing you've got to complain about, you're doing pretty good.

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41. All of you people that are beating up on thewiseone... I wish this obnoxious violent over the line woman had done this to all of YOU instead of thewiseone!
She was just sharing her experience and you all have to jump on a person who tried to handle things the best way she could after being verbally assaulted and startled by this woman's rudeness. A pox to all of you who are trying to throw salt in her wounds.
I can't even imagine the type of crying and griping you all would do on this post if it had happened to you or someone you love.
You are basically ganging up on her... trying to correct her behavior and basically playing blame the victim.
We have all had bad experiences in Ballard.... bloody h*ll this forum is usually about people sharing those experiences to warn or share with their neighbors - you bullies!

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A pox on salty grammar! "i should of said" should be "I should have said" or you could use the contraction "I should've said" if you want to sound more conversational.
Now someone might actually learn something from this post instead of just getting all America up in your face.

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Perhaps fellow posters are just pissed off that thewiseone chose to type her thread's title in all caps and they feel that she's shouting at them? Anyway it goes, I'm quite disappointed in the ensuing negativity aimed at thewiseone who was caught off guard with her encounter and literally injured.

Wildernessbarbie, you specifically ask this question: Why do you feel "we" need to know about this? Do you know of some specific forum rule that outlines the criteria for posting? Are readers not free to post about anything they want especially if it relates to our neighborhood, as long as it doesn't offend, incite, defame, etc. etc. etc.?

Just as you question thewiseone's need to share her information, I can ask the same of you. Why do you feel I need to know your reaction to thewiseone's post? Let her type her peace. I read your last post as just an attempt to elevate yourself and show how well you can handle yourself compared to thewiseone. Well you go girl! Bravo for kicking the woman who's already down.

Some posters have pleaded for more compassion on here, well then send it thewiseone's way for goodness sake! She was INJURED people. And as for passive aggression in Ballard, it doesn't get much better than responding anonymously on the My Ballard Blog.

Sincerely,
An aggressive Aquarian who doesn't like bullies

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WiseOne- PLEASE pull past the mailbox as far as possible if you are getting out of your car to drop mail.

I went back and read the OP and have a theory as to what set the woman off. Wise one says she stopped short of the mailbox and I would bet she stopped 3-4 feet short at least. By doing so, the woman in the mini van was now forced to stop short unexpectedly causing her to block the crosswalk and possibly a lane. We all know the wrath of the 'Entitled Pedestrian' in ballard. We have had to endure threads about the supreme rights of pedestrians to unobstructed crosswalks at ALL times with no exceptions. So I would bet that woman was subjected to some verbal chastising from pedestrians indignant at her stopped in the crosswalk and maybe having her car smacked by them. She was mad because she had to take blame for something she didn't feel was her fault. I have been put in that situation more than once myself when the car in front of me suddenly stopped 4 feet short despite having the lane open to the condos. If you are parking and getting out, PLEASE pull past the mailbox so more people can drop mail in the same amount of time and keep things moving as smooth as possible in a congested area. Stopping short and causing the intersection to come to a standstill is going to make people irate. Sorry she handled it the way she did but I would bet this is the scenario.

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So i get up early this morning to read more posts. i usually sleep in on sat. i can see that there were numerous posts after i wrote something and it esclated. Fist there are a lot of opinionated people in ballard. you have every right to your opinion. i gave the details of the person cause i felt like i needed to. i can explain myself...tall, short hair, smaller than this lady. it really doesnt matter. maybe i over spoke to this lady. i do care if the lady was sticking out on the sidewalk. but i was almost to the mail box. i realy didnt measure. this lady again had no right to what she did. if she did not like waiting she could of come around me and parked somewhere else...there is no excuse for her behavior. i said what i said becuase it was appropriate at that time. some of you might not agree and that is completely fine. i dont care. you were not in the situatioin and you were not there so you cannot judge me for what happened. next time i guess i wont post something on here and tell you what happened to me...and it being in Ballard. some people understand and other are judgmental. this is America and we have the right to post what we want on here. thanks to the ballard people that are putting me down and saying that i was wrong! kudos! ha! your killing me! i was the person injured! its ok we all have diff personalities! sad to see what our world is coming to! specially in Ballard!

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ps..i wrote in caps because i was schocked and under stress. sorry for the peps that dont like caps

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i imagine there is a post somewhere that goes something like this:

what is it with people who feel that just because they're mailing something they can park directly in front of (or 3 feet short of) the curbside mailbox even though they're not mailing from inside their car? this evening, a woman stopped like 3 feet short of the mailbox, and then GOT OUT OF HER CAR to drop something into the box. I got out and asked her why she couldn't pull up and the chick gets all aggressive and shouts at me, "YOU NEED TO DROP THE ATTITUDE!" I'm already frustrated after driving behind her for miles and i'm not proud of my next actions, but...

No, this isn't me. I don't drive and if I did, it wouldn't be a minivan.

Despite the anger and flames on this post, we can at least learn a few things:
*A word of advice about the internet. Don't post angry!!
*The area around the post office is a clusterf$%k. If everyone walked half a block instead of trying to get as close as possible, it would be less so.
*Kindness works! Sure. we all get agitated and lash out, but that rarely goes well.

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Shallow end ...scinero it was not like that..it was not how it happened. YOU were not there! She said other thing to me as well and that is what caused me to say drop the attitude. if it happened again i would of said the same thing. i am not a mean person at all. the way she presented hereslf towards me was negative and she spoke out and said mean things to me. YOU were not there. you cannot make a judement call and no one else can because you were not there. You can say...or think what you feel..that is fine..you have every right to. But YOU were not there. Maybe it is a good think you dont drive. if you cant handle people and getting scared on the road it is not a good idea. Especially if you cannot protect yourself.

Again let me state...it was DARK, I am a female, I had every right to park where i did. THERE is no rules stating to pull up to the box. If there was there would be a sign and they would make it illegal to what i did. i did NOT PARK. My engine was ON. I did not measure but i was almost to the POST OFFICE BOX. I did not have any one in the passanger seat to put in my mail. I didnt want to damage my rear view mirror. i was there less than a MIN.

THAT LADY SHOULD OF WAITING HER TURN! AGAIN I REPEAT WAITED HER TURN! That was not called for her ACTIONS in any way towards me! VIOLENCE AND PUSHING MY DOOR HARD WITH HER HAND TO CLOSE IT!

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Shallow end ...scinero it was not like that..it was not how it happened. YOU were not there! She said other thing to me as well and that is what caused me to say drop the attitude. if it happened again i would of said the same thing. i am not a mean person at all. the way she presented hereslf towards me was negative and she spoke out and said mean things to me. YOU were not there. you cannot make a judement call and no one else can because you were not there. You can say...or think what you feel..that is fine..you have every right to. But YOU were not there. Maybe it is a good think you dont drive. if you cant handle people and getting scared on the road it is not a good idea. Especially if you cannot protect yourself.

Again let me state...it was DARK, I am a female, I had every right to park where i did. THERE is no rules stating to pull up to the box. If there was there would be a sign and they would make it illegal to what i did. i did NOT PARK. My engine was ON. I did not measure but i was almost to the POST OFFICE BOX. I did not have any one in the passanger seat to put in my mail. I didnt want to damage my rear view mirror. i was there less than a MIN.

THAT LADY SHOULD OF WAITING HER TURN! AGAIN I REPEAT WAITED HER TURN! That was not called for her ACTIONS in any way towards me! VIOLENCE AND PUSHING MY DOOR HARD WITH HER HAND TO CLOSE IT!

Posted 3 years ago #
shallow.end

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I'll dumb it down for you then.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

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thewiseone

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I agree with you shallowend. we were both wrong on our parts. this should of never happened in the first place. next time when i go to the po i will be parking somewhere else or walking. i will not take a chance to encounter a situation like this. i dont cause trouble. i try to make peace. i hate it when i was the one and someone hurt my hand by shoving the door while i was holding my door closed. i get accused by people in ballard as if i am the bad person. I agree it does go both ways and we are were both wrong.

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thewiseone - Don't let these negative people get to you. You have every right to do what you did. I would have probably said something a little stronger than you did to her. Good Gawd - she still got her mail in the box.
You could have ended up with your hand broken by the door slamming on it. And that is assault.
My dad years ago was taking my mom to work. Stopped at a red light, cars in front. My mom decided to just get out there - she had bad legs which made it hard for her to get out of a car quickly. Light changed, cars in front not initially moving. My mom just got out and car behind laid on his horn. He then got up, walked up to my dad's car & put his fist through the closed window - striking my dad on the side of his face, breaking his glasses. Cussed him out and then got in his car and roared off before anyone could get his plate, only description. This man was in his 30's and my dad was in his late 60's.
So I have complete sympathy with you and again, don't let all the negativity/philosophy want to write here. You have nothing to defend yourself about.

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thewiseone

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Thanks Ballardbeavers. I know everyone has a right to post things on this blog that is why it is called a blog. i know you will not get people that understand you all of the time and are compassionate. i know people are not like that and they have harsh feeling inside themseleves or are not happy with life. They let it out on others and i understand and i know. i have a degree in psychology. But that is what life is all about. It is ok. I posted it because i thought the town of Ballard should know.

I am sorry to hear what happened to your father. That is terrible. How could people be so cruel. Why would a person be so impatient and do that? What is our world coming to. This is terrible. I hope your dad is better now. But I know you never forget incidents like those and they do hurt. Your dad's incident was far worse off than mine.

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This whole thing sounds very unpleasant and I would've been shaken up quite badly if I'd been in wiseone's place. Although from the sounds of it I wouldn't be surprised if there was another post that said, "I was just trying to drive home from a hard day at work and a woman stopped her car and got out and left her door open so I couldn't pass. When I got out to say something to her she screamed at me "Cut the attitude!" and I was so scared she was going to get violent that I didn't even think and I shut her door, afraid she was going to come out and attack me."

I'm not saying that's what happened, but when two people escalate to the point where they're snapping at each other (and are strangers) the stories always come out as "I did nothing wrong" and "my rudeness was justified". I think the de-escalation strategy is probably the most effective. I've had people come out me (very few times thank goodness!) in public and try to vent their rage on me. Once I "fought back" and the person all out attacked me and had to be pulled off by his drunken friends. Another time (I had my 3 year old daughter with me) I spoke quietly and calmly and said, "I'm sorry. I didn't realize I had offended you. It wasn't my intention. I'm very sorry." and the person screaming at me actually calmed down enough to notice my daughter behind me cowering and crying and yelled, "Well ... you're fucked!" but at least I could see on his face he knew he'd made a mistake as he turned around and left. I can't even imagine what he would've done if I'd "stood up for myself" by engaging in the fight he wanted. Sometimes standing up for yourself is not buying into the other person's craziness and not playing their game.

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eric

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well, i think the moral to the story is,expect to get jumped on for just about anything you post in any blog. lots of experts on just about everything and any situation in ballard.

Posted 3 years ago #
bellie

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"I agree with you shallowend. we were both wrong on our parts. this should of never happened in the first place. next time when i go to the po i will be parking somewhere else or walking."

Good on ya, thewiseone. It's sounds like you finally got it!

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Xtophe

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I'm sorry, anyone who would spend this much time posting about such a non-event IN CAPS clearly has issues.

Posted 3 years ago #
Frayed Knot

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This thread just goes to show ya that all women are crazy.

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thewiseone

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To the last 4 posts that posted to my blog that i wrote about being cautious. i am not the bad lady here and neither am i nuts. why make a comment if you are going to be rude seriously? people think about what you post before you make any comments. my comment to her like i repeated about 4 times was not called for you are right. i did close my door when i got out of my vehicle. i did not leave my door wide open. just for all of the people that are being mean to mean and cruel ....i will do it again at the post office. this seems like this ballard blog is a care free attitude..if that is the way you will all be...i will be the same!!

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bellie

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"if that is the way you will all be...i will be the same!! "

Oh, grow up. Can't you see that it's that attitude that bought you the problem in the first place?

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