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Hello
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Hi All, I was wondering if someone could help me understand something... my husband and I are trying to improve our diets by adding more fresh fuits and veg.
We purchased a little juicer and have been drinking fresh squeezed orange juice everday... now we have general malaise and stiffness in our joints.
Does anyone think there could be a connection to the oranges?
(I know oranges are good for us so it doesn't make sense to me, but this is the only new introduction of food recently.)
Any ideas?
Amy J
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Too much acid in your foods could lower your blood pH and cause stiffness in the joints. It's probably not the OJ alone, but the OJ along with other acidic foods. You might want to read up on maintaining your body's pH levels. I don't know how long you've been juicing, what other things you are juicing or how long it has been since introducing OJ (and how much you are ingesting) but those are all things you should consider.
I'd look at everything you are juicing, the pH (acid or alkaline) values, take it easy on the fruits (esp looking at your sugar intake) and go from there.
Good luck and great way to start making some changes in your health!
saffythepook
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Sounds more like influenza.
Kudos for pumping up the fruits and veg. I've been eating ~50% by volume of high figer fruits and vegetables for a couple of years now. My equillibrium weight has come down 10 lbs with other benefits (increased regularity, greater satiation after meals, etc.) It's a pretty effortless way to diet that made a noticeable difference within just a few days of starting.
pennygirl
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Hello
Do you have kids? There's a nasty little bug going round right now. The kids are sniffy and generally coldy, but it seems like it's hitting the parents more in the achy joints/tired thing.
Hello
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Hello all,
Nice responses... thank you for the information. We were kind of worried - don't have human children just our pup... who also had some orange and we are all three not feeling well. Dog is stiff jointed and hubby and I are... PH balance makes sense.... thank you saffythepook, pennygirl and Amy J. We will check into the PH.
(I know probably not the best idea to feed pup orange juice... but she really wanted some - we think she thought it was cheddar cheese.)
pennygirl
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Hello,
Ahh..a cheese dog! I swear my dogs would trample all over me for cheese. The sharper the better for some reason! Who knew?
rvhthelod
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Too much of any one thing generally ends badly. haha
Hello
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Yes, pennygirl - our pup really goes crazy for aged cheddar. I say to her, "what's on the agenda?" and she does ALL of her tricks over and over until she gets her cheese.
(I do not abuse her weakness for cheese, BTW : )
Yes, rvhthelod - I think we went a little overboard. We really loved having fresh squeezed in the am... until, we could barely walk because we were so stiff.
Thanks for all the encouragement towards eating healthier... I guess there is a science to it. We will read some more books and try to get it right.
saffythepook
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The body is generally pretty good at regulating pH, but who knows what can go wrong if you overwhelm it with a ton of acid. Sounds like it's time for a batch of soda bicuits!
Anonymous
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There is a virus going around that feels a lot like that - fatigue, achiness - and lasts about a week. Not too hard to catch even if you don't have miniature people at home.
That's interesting about body PH. I'd never thought about that before.
sunset
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Glad I read this. I, too, was inhaling tons of juice. I crave citrus and having it every single day - sometimes two, three times a day - and big, big glasses.. And I was all achy and feeling very tired all the time. My diet was rather acidic then, now that I think about it. I cut back on juice, for no particular reason, and just eating fresh fruit at lunch. Didn't make the connection with the aching joints, malise going away.
Thanks for the information.
Hello
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Hi Sunset, I know.... who would have thought that the intake of something so "healthy" could backfired. Thanks for letting me know you, too, had the same experience.
We didn't rule out the flu ballardmama - being that I have to talk to practically every little one I see I figured it could be a possibility...thank you for the tip. : )
BriarRose
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The sales departments who work in the citrus industry have been very very good. You are overdosing on sugar.
Carbohydrates in orange juice are in the form of simple sugars, which tend to increase your blood sugar levels rapidly, then decrease blood sugar levels just as quickly. This may give you quick energy after consumption, but will result in a quick drop in energy soon after. Raw orange juice has 21 grams of sugar per cup, that is 8 oz. A 16 oz can of coke contains about 39 grams of sugar in comparison.
Worth considering also: The last dentist I visited told me that sugar combined with acid is possibly the worst thing anyone can wash over their teeth and that both soda and citrus are terrible.
motorrad
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I was putting frozen blueberries, strawberries, mango etc. in the blender with orange juice (easier to clean up than yogurt which I dislike anyway). Was very refreshing. I had a pint glass plus a little extra for breakfast and then another pint in the afternoon. I bloated up within 2 weeks. As that was the only change I figured that was the problem. Quit, lost inches and weight, then tried again. Same thing. So I went back to eating crap.
great idea
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I think you all need to drink more water.
A glass or two of acidic juice really shouldn't make a big difference in your body's ph. As BR mentioned, it's probably just as likely the sugar spike from your drink.
Maybe try eating less acidic fruit as well (bananas?)
here's some common juices and their relative acidity:
tomato juice - pH 4 - 4.4
orange juices - pH 3.6
lemon juices - pH 2.2 - 2.4
gastric juices - pH 1 - 3
BriarRose
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I am amazed at the number of people who stuff their kids full of juice. It's basically all sugar and without eating the whole fruit you lose the value of the fiber. They might as well be drinking soda.
Amy J
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Sugar is tasty, but not good for you. It's so prevalent in foods.
http://www.sugarstacks.com/ <--- peek around at the categories.
phoo
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When it seemed like I was having a rough time from low blood sugar, I cut out certain things. Fruit juice was one of them. I like fruit juice, but I am much better off eating an apple than a whole glass of apple juice. It's the sugar of a whole bunch of apples but without the fiber to slow down the absorption in your system. Drink a big glass of fruit juice will make me insta-cranky.
Although it's somewhat scary, there is this awesome "diet cranberry" juice where they put in splenda instead of sugar. Even the "lite cranberry" is full of added sugar. That's pretty much the only time I drink fruit juice. Sometimes I water it down a bit because it is so strong and sweet.
Orange juice is so high in sugars (pineapple is worse, but not much else is that high) that it's what you give to diabetics who are in insulin shock.
Oh, and although I am mostly back on the sugar monkey, when I cut out white rice, potatoes, corn, fruit juice, sugar, etc I started being able to go 6 hours without eating and quit craving chocolate cake after every rice-laden asian meal. Being on a sugar roller coaster will cause you to eat more and more, particularly more and more junk food.
ballardmike
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Add vodka.
Cheese
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Sez rvhthelod: "Too much of any one thing generally ends badly."
Time: Daily Lunch in London Winter
Where: College cafeteria
What: Steak and Kidney pies/Cornish pasties and other things.
What I Had With Above - Everyday: A lot of carrots to counteract English "cuisine".
Cut: To a week long scientific meeting in Baltimore where I took in an afternoon baseball game on a gloriously sunny day in Camden Fields in April.
Result: I turned as orange as a Oompa-loompa. The lack of sun in England and the sheer amount of carotene I ingested over the winter created a Perfect Storm when I hit sunlight. Good thing I didn't have to give a talk at the meeting...
Anyway, my opinion on citrus is to eat the fruit, not just the juice. Unless the juice is on its way to a cocktail. Nothing like a Tequila Sunrise.
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If you juice beets you'll get a red camode
lyl
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I have always cut the juice by at least half (half juice half water). My kids never knew any different and when I used Bubble water they thought it was soda. (just an ounce or two of vodka in mine) Living in the woods helped with fooling the kids into thinking they had it good.
Hello
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Thank you for all the input all... we just bought a juicer - what about all of the info on juicing and how healthy it is? : (
We were planning on juicing greens and fuits in combo mixtures to help us meet our daily requirements.
BriarRose
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Personally I have never felt the need to pulverize my food before I eat it but I suppose juicers are great if you prefer to drink vegetable sludge over eating vegetables.
phoo
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When I had the guinea pigs I wished I still had the masticating juicer (much better than centrigual!) so I could give them the pulp. Also, it is a fabulous way to make instant soup stock. I very much regret giving it up to a (now) ex-boyfriend. Oh yes, you could also make nutbutters and (somewhat awkwardly) ice cream/sorbets.
ballardmike
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You can put vodka in just about anything.
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