gi, I said, more stringent. I stand by it.
iPlod is correct as usual.
gi, I said, more stringent. I stand by it.
iPlod is correct as usual.
Really, do most folks get their info from fictional TV shows ?
You do not need to pass any background check to buy a gun in Washington State, you must be 18 to purchase a rifle and 21 to purchase a pistol, there is no gun registration, other than the ATF tracking interstate sales and shipments, Wa State will allow you to fill out a voluntary owner/transfer form is one wishes.
To get a CCP you will be fingerprinted, and a criminal check is done, pay your money – Wash must issue a CCP to all eligible applicants.
Washington and most western states have an “open carry law”, Seattle Police will not respond to someone carrying a gun in a holster, if they are committing some other disregard for the law, they will respond, being disorderly, aggressive begging and so on.
If you purchase a gun from a dealer, there is a waiting period and a “domestic violence”, and “no restoration of civil rights” and Wash State Residency (for a pistol, not required for a rifle) check is done.
If you have a Wash state CPP (concealed pistol permit), then a dealer only needs to clear the sale with recent domestic violence charges and Wash state residency then the ATF paperwork and cert of checking current violations are filled out, Bobs your uncle, and you walk out with your gun.
Citizen to citizen sale do not need any paperwork, it is illegal to sell a pistol across state lines (ATF rules) without a dealer (FFL) as middle person. Most folks selling a firearm will ask to see a CPP and Wash State ID.
Gun shows are one of the hardest places to buy a gun (despite what TV says) they are usually sponsored by a club and they require :
Membership /w sponsor
Registration to enter – no ‘just browsing’ without a member
CCP for the State
ID for the state
Sales to anyone else at the show is against the rules and result in further investigation – possible gun crime reported.
It is a felony in Wa to buy (or knowing sell) a gun for someone not allowed to own one.
Most all the sellers at shows require the ‘voluntary’ state paperwork filled out, they will not usually file it but keep the sale records for their own protection.
All dealers must still follow state and federal sales procedures (once a dealer – always a dealer)
"If you purchase a gun from a dealer, there is a waiting period and a “domestic violence”, and “no restoration of civil rights” and Wash State Residency (for a pistol, not required for a rifle) check is done."
? Sounds like a check to me.
OK, it is, but takes about 5 Minutes. The waiting period is a "cooling off period" if you have a CPP then you can be a hot head, or buy a 'rifle' such as an Uzi or a small AR, no waiting period.
I still say its foolish to feel like its necessary to carry a gun in daily life. Good example might be the twats that were shooting at each other on I-5 the other day... That nearly killed other people because they were too F-ing stupid to get out of a bad situation to begin with.
I think it's more cowardice than foolishness. Like I said earlier, it sucks to be so scared of other people that you feel the need to carry a gun with you at all times in your daily life. Still, I get some people need to cling to something to feel safe even though most of us grew out of that phase when we were children and no longer needed our teddy bears to make us feel safe.
Better to cling to your nanny.
Maybe she'll slap the thumb out of your mouth.
No, I'm just not a coward. Sorry you can't say the same.
I hope fate never provides you a reason to act cowardly again...
Perhaps brave is more a goal for your future? It's your call entirely.
Already am brave - don't see me needing a gun to walk down the street without feeling scared. Then again I'm not some cowboy who goes looking for trouble.
BTW still waiting to hear how you would have stopped the Aurora shooting. Gunman in body armor and helmet, dark, smoke filled room, huge crowd in a panic. Come on ace, regale us with your tales of how you'd have no problem making a perfect shot in that situation.
Brave would not feel the need to attack, based upon fear and ignorance.
btw, you'll be waiting forever, if I get my wish.
I have a CP and always carry my Glock G20 for protection in case a predator decides to have me for lunch. I have it in a quick draw rig on my chest. Plenty of stopping power if needed.
Of course that's only when I'm on a hunting trip.
It seems like there is a resurgence of small man syndrome like the old West. Punks that would get their ass kicked in a fight find the need to pack as an equalizer. I don't carry in town......
Why would a small man have a syndrome? Because he doesn't have an "equalizer"?
Are you only a small man when large MEN make you nervous but not when large CARNIVORES make you nervous?
Ah Ballard.. So quaint! And you thought yuppies packing socks died with disco! Maybe it's all part of the new Hipster thing. What could be more retro? "Is that a roll of breath mints?
Oly - I have to ask this - why do you you have a Concealed Carry Permit?
VB, it's easier to transport, in a legal sense. For fifty bucks, it's worth it. For the record I hunt for food not for sport. It's for protection only when in the back country, the rest of the time it's in a safe.
Plod, good point, unfortunately I haven't seen many bears running around town randomly mauling people.
Oly - that makes no sense. All you have to do in this state is put the gun in one place in the vehicle and the ammo in another! Why would you want to go through the process of getting a CWP to avoid that? And FWIW when would you ever be stopped for having a loaded firearm in a vehicle if you never did anything to attract the attention of a law enforcement officer?
And what are you hunting with a firearm that needs a CWP?
I have to agree that I do often carry a piston in the woods but that does not necessitate a CWP, I used to just have a 45 in a holster before got a small 35 in a fanny pack, but still you don't need to get a CWP.
Even though Washington law allows open carry and it's legal to have a concealed weapon when hunting or hiking I choose to have a CWP. It's a personal preference. It was cheap and easy to get. I'm covered no matter what the situation.
I just wanted to troll this thread to be the 200th post to say Rush is a shitty band and I would never hire someone with tatoos for my small business.
Rush you say? If you see a quaint little movie called Suck, you will have a pleasant surprise.
Can tattooed people be WM drivers?
Only if they weigh as much as a duck.
In that case, we burn them.
Game on. Troll thread. Or was it already? tl/dr
Back on topic. If guns kill people, do spoons make them fat?
Guns? Or people.
who is onederboy? F'n Mr. Miyagi or something? Jesus dude, do you listen to yourself?
Spoons don't make people fat! Fat makes people fat.
But.....spooning can make some people pregnant. An important distinction to keep in mind.
Playing the spoons guarantees you won't make anyone pregnant.
I dunno Cheese! Playing the spoons is especially close to playing the banjo, and there are genetic implications in that. As a sometime banjo player I know!! <grin>
I was at a convention of biological scientists once and one researcher remarked to me, "Did you know that in our lab we have switched from mice to banjo players for our experiments?"
"Really?" I replied, "Why did you switch?"
"Well, for several reasons. we found that banjo players are far more plentiful; the lab assistants don't get so attached to them; the Animal Rights Activists leave us alone; and there are some things even a rat won't do... However, sometimes it is very hard to extrapolate our test results to human beings."
Careful with them spoons!!
Playing spoons gets a lot of people pregnant, fwiw.
Unless you are shooting blanks, open carry, dressed like a clown.
...ow...as a banjo player, that kinda hurt, D ;-)
You are a banjo player too 1der? I haven't played much since I was in HI. Not a lot of call for duets between ukelele's and banjos. I need to pick it up again though and see if anyone calls the police.
I remember being in a bar in my hotel once while attending a meeting in Chicago. I expected blues or swing or jazz, but instead a drummer was banging away. The weird thing was he kept playing and playing and playing. I asked the waitress when he was going to stop and she got this panicked look and muffled a scream and ran away! I didn't know what to make of that. After a few hours I left and got some sleep, but I noticed I could still hear that drummer continuing to play, seemingly all night. In fact, in the morning I could clearly hear him when I got a bite to eat at their breakfast bar. I asked the person at the front desk when the drummer was going to stop and he too got this panicked look and ran into the back room! I could not figure this out....but I needed to get to my meeting so I left. When I got back to the hotel that night the drummer was still going. This went on the whole week long. I was amazed. So much so that I finally asked the bar tender what was going on? Why.....when I asked folks when the drummer would stop...did everyone look so panicked and run away? He explained that when the drum solo was over, the banjo solo would start.
probably the most annoying thing on the planet...yes even more than this board is artis the spoonman. omg. so ridiculous.
what is this?
Don't look at the banjo player, it only encourages him.
When I was playing banjo in years gone by I was traveling around the midwest with 2 buddies. One guy was a Rabbi. The other was a Hindu from the continent of India. Our pickup truck broke down in Iowa and we ended up walking a ways to a farm house. We knocked on the door and asked the farmer for help. He said sure....we could stay the night with him. But he only had room in the house for two of us so one of us would have to stay out in the barn with the animals.
My buddy the Rabbi volunteered, but a few minutes after he went out to the barn he came back to the house and said he couldn't spend the night with a pig! It would be sacrilege. So my friend from India volunteered. Pigs are fine with him. No sooner did he go out there though than he was back, exclaiming about the cow in the barn! He explained how he was OK with the pig...but for him, sleeping with the cow was sacrilege.
So I volunteered. I grabbed my banjo and a blanket and headed out there. Next thing I knew, the cow and the pig were at the farmers door knocking.
You really know banjo.
I always enjoy watching someone tune a banjo, all serious, ear cocked just so, turning the pegs...
I can't help but point out it won't change anything.
"Plod, good point"
Woosh, sorry Oly.
I remember setting my banjo down between sets once and this little kid came up and turned one of the tuning pegs a couple of turns. Darn was I upset!! I couldn't figure out which one!
After you got me thinking about banjos today I got nostalgic for them. I was in the Post Office and asked if they still had those commemorative banjo stamps the USPS came up with a while back? I thought that would be cool to stick on envelopes.
I guess they stopped making them though. No one could figure out which side of the stamp to spit on.
I think I need to go home! This is what happens when I work too late too often!!
My apologies everyone! (not really...<grin>)
Keep it up dsomers, I'm laffin.
My next youngest brother plays banjo but he also plays sword so I can't joke with him about it because he doesn't play joke.
I never knew that banjos were the but of so many jokes. My first thought was 'gosh, I like banjo'. Oh well. Sign of the times I geuss.
Corvus, have you ever worked in hard construction? I was asking cause when I was young I spent some time doing iron work on a high rise back east.
3 of us were sitting on a girder way the heck up on this skeleton of a building about to have our lunches. One of the guys was a banjo player in his spare time. He opened his lunch and looked totally disgusted. He help up a bologna sandwich and said "If I get this for lunch one more time I am gonna jump!!"
He was pretty upset. We all kinda shut up and ate our sandwiches quietly and went back to work.
Next day we sat down on the same girder looking out over the skyline of Hartford and when the banjo guy opened his lunch pail he yelled "Not again! Another bologna sandwich!!" Darned if he didn't jump!! I was pretty stunned. The guy next to me saw I was pretty taken aback and said "don't feel too bad for the guy, Dave! He makes his own lunches you know!"
We settled down and ate our sandwiches and watched the crowd gathering below.
I have to admit, my IQ probably isn't what it should be. You play with what you're dealt though.
A few years ago at a computer conference with a bunch of agencies one of the agencies attending took us to see a new computer system they were developing. It was cool! They were on the cutting edge of artificial intelligence and were working on a machine that could carry on a conversation. It was quite impressive.
One of the folks in our tour group sat down to talk with it. The computer and gal started going on about relativity and string theory and multiverses. Turned out she was an actual rocket scientist for NASA. A PhD in cosmology. IQ 180.
Another person in our group sat down and he and the computer started going on about metallurgy and crystal structures in the matrices of various alloys. He was a materials engineer with Boeing and had an IQ of 150.
My IQ? 50. I know. No need to say anything. I sat down with that machine and the first thing it did was ask me what gauge of banjo strings I liked to play on.
No need to worry ds, mom sed multply yor banjo string gauges by 4, or er um by 5 to get yor IQ & if yor disappointed like I wuz, switch to five string BASS banjo like mom toled me. Yu'll be smarter & happie!
Yor frennd, iPlod
OK...the machine I have been waiting for just got done. I am gathering my stuff and heading off to don the lycra and lemon yellow garb of a happy bicyclist about to head to the barn!!
Before I go though I feel the need to try and get this thread back on topic after having derailed it so badly!
When I was flying around the Pacific a few years back I traveled with one of our law enforcement rangers to a park. I was gonna be gone a while and brought my banjo along to practice with. The ranger had some assorted weapons since he was gonna do some firearms training with some of the other rangers out there. His gun case got caught on something sharp though and the zipper was totaled so I loaned him my banjo case to hold his AR15 and Shotgun. He was able to get a ton of ammo in there as well. I left my banjo at the hotel in Honolulu and was gonna pick it back up on my way home.
As we went through customs the agent saw the banjo case and had him set it on a table. We were in American Samoa and they didn't have xray machines at the time and hand checked everything. The agent was clearly uncomfortable and on edge as he approached the case.
Ever so carefully he opened the case. When he saw all the weapons and ammo he visibly relaxed and sighed and thanked all the gods, great and small, that there wasn't a banjo in that case!
Cheers 1der!! <grin> Night everyone!! Night 'Plod!!
Night John Boy!
loading up my Glock 30 and heading to Freddy's, Anyone care to join me?
Shhh, we're sleeping.
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