Last night around 7-8ish I saw one SPD unit and one Port of Seattle unit on Market and the door to Sustainable looked pretty smashed up. Anyone hear anything or know what happened?
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Break In at Sustainable?
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Posted 3 years ago #
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Perhaps it was the karma fairy.
Posted 3 years ago # -
the karma fairy must have steel toe boots, because that door looked jacked up.
Posted 3 years ago # -
sorry to hear about this.
not only do the store owners need to deal with cleaning it up, etc., but they also have to deal with snide comments from across the ocean.
Posted 3 years ago # -
I have to agree with WB. When you do bad things karma can kick you back.
Posted 3 years ago # -
I am not sure where sustainable is, but last night about 6:50, 3 cops had someone in custody across 17th from the 711, in the door next to the mini mart there. Looked like someone was going to spend the night in Jail. Anyone know what that was?
Posted 3 years ago # -
Sustainable is the old "All the King's Flags" shop...20th and Market I believe.
Posted 3 years ago # -
What did Sustainable do that was not OK?
Posted 3 years ago # -
They went into Enlighten as a potential buyer, took their supplier info and opened her own place 2 blocks away.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Thanks Rudy. I haven't ever hear of Sustainable.....Guess I dont get out much. But, sound like not good karma if they stole the supplier list. LAME!
Posted 3 years ago # -
do we really know they stole the supplier list or is this just more gossip?
is the supplier list really that hard to obtain for a new store? I'm sure they did some other homework before going through the trouble of opening a business.it's called capitalism, folks. no need to praise their misfortune. karma is going to bite each of you in the ass today just for saying it.
are you also sore at picclino's for giving walt's cafe some competition?
Posted 3 years ago # -
I am just curious what happened to their front door coupled with the police activity...karma fairy or not.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Maybe the Geeky Sweedes will be/are looking into it and will report on it soonish?
(the smashed up door/cops, not the supplier list thing)
Posted 3 years ago # -
If this is the supplier list I'm thinking of... let's see if I can describe the difference between capitalism and what I'll loosely describe as corporate espionage.
Large suppliers are easy to find - in fact you'll have hard time dealing with the sheer volume of them in certain areas. Good large suppliers, particularly in working with a smaller retail store, is a matter of experience. (eg Toy manufacturers who require a minimum $10K order, and at least $60K of orders per year in order to do business with you).
The smaller the supplier, the more unique the item, the smaller the quantity available, the harder that supplier generally is to find. If it takes me 2 years, and some amount of cash, to find an acceptable supplier of hand dipped 3-1/2 inch pure bees wax candles, I have an investment in that supplier information. That's my intellectual property.
I may choose - or not - to give that information to someone. If someone comes to me and takes my "little black book" of suppliers out of my office - that's theft - corporate espionage - not capitalism. I can justify some pretty hard feelings there.
If I approach a shop, under the guise of buying the shop, ask to see their supplier list, then walk off with that list and away from the purchase I never intended to complete, two sides share in that. I, for being deceptive. The shop, for being naive. That, is capitalism. I might think that's sleazy, I might offer sympathy, I might offer some business counseling, but there's a heavy dose of that's the way the world works in there.
In the case of these two stores, I don't know what happened with this specific list.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Now on the home page: http://www.myballard.com/2010/04/22/sustainable-front-door-vandalized/
Posted 3 years ago # -
Enlighten had a nice letter to their customers up explaining the situation, how the owners of sustainable a were in negotiations to buy them, required the vendor list and then backed out and withdrew their offer and opened their own store using the previously unique list of artist and craftsman from Thailand. How many Thai botique shops do you think Ballard can support?
Disclaimer: my sole source of info are the owners of Enlighten, but I would think they'd be opening themselves up to a nasty lawsuit if they were publishing such info if it was not true.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Steal a supplier list? This makes no sense. Open a business and the suppliers will flock to you, call you. email you, send you catologs etc. They're selling, they will come find you.
If in fact there is such a thing as a "propietary" supplier list, one would then have to ask why the suppliers were so willing to sell to the new store.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Does anyone else find it odd that a business called Sustainable is selling products imported from Thailand? Am I missing something?
Posted 3 years ago # -
My understanding is that these aren't typical "suppliers." They are small scale artists that produce hand crafted items that the owners met in Thailand. Not mass producers of generic tourist souvenirs. Not the kind of people who have websites and catalogs.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Schaatser - I have to agree with you on that. But then Colgate bought Tom's of Maine and never changed the whole "we make our own toothpaste" schtick on the box. Sustainable, organic and farmer seem to be big marketing buzz words these days.
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