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QFC Ballard Community Resource or Deficit?

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  • Started 2 years ago by reigh
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    This is of course a thought "peace" feel free to disagree.

    It has long been know that QFC is overpriced or at the least one of the most expensive grocers in the region. But it has come to my attention that they have begun picking on the most vulnerable within our community and I am singling out the experience at the QFC in Ballard [5700 24th Ave NW, Seattle, Washington - (206) 297-2150]. Prices attitudes and out right targeting of their own clientele are just some of the burdens this particular brand hides.

    I have had some humbling time to spend with the homeless, elderly and orphaned youth in the area and this is what I find. First of all many who are relegated to food stamps and cannot buy heated prepared food from the deli. QFC offers an alternative which is their left over food they cannot sell from days before in small packs. Unfortunately they use the statistics obtained from the card they so generously offer for free to hike prices instead of offer bulk deals on this food. Food they would have to waste. I was told casually a time ago that the manager wants to see heaping food in the deli. That may look nice for sales but creates a wasteful excess. I observed what they are doing with the waste offering it to customers at high rates to turn a profit not in selling this bulk at reasonable prices to help a struggling economy. It is not as if Safeway, Winco, and Grocery Outlet Bargain Market offer low prices and our own Ballard market offer “real” Quality foods nearby.

    I suggest a temporary boycott of this business to show them we mean business ourselves.

    It is not just the prices at this store that effect the venerable either. They sell food to the homeless and offer a place to sit and these people unlike the employees working their clean up well after themselves. But, they treat these customers that pay them for services as well as everyone else with snide looks and any excuse to make them feel unwelcome. It is not just homeless either an older gentleman I know lives nearby and is bound to living in an institution cannot sit in the seating area enjoying coffee reading the paper and talking with those in the community for more than 30 minutes. Starbucks along with QFC have made big yellow signs and take pride in enforcing their policy with that same intolerant smirk especially if they look tired. We need to make a place for those people who don’t have a place to go when our libraries, public shelters, retirement homes can do only so much to provide outlets for personal esteem and benefiting the community. That is the kind of thing that is going to make our community more livable for the privileged, hard-working and those chosen to bear the burden of the past’s excess living by the upper crust.

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    Can't say I have ever seen that. I have always seen the staff act perfectly fine.

    If you have a problem with the card program, you take that up with Kroger and not the store. Boycott Fred Meyer too then. Same store, same products.

    I don't know if the deli is the store's policy or the company policy. Might be worth an asking about. Then you know if it should be just this QFC, all QFCs or all Kroger stores.

    I have yet to see anything though in regards to any mis-treatment or snide looks. If I see that, then I wont go. Until then, sorry, I will be a shopper there if I need something quick.

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    SEdholm main issues is with the staff esspecially managment and attitude Fred Myer lacks these with use negatives and use of stats so do others safeway etc.

    As to weather you do or do not know somthing what I am stating is facts from staff who implement the policies.

    No to mention throwing basketballs at their displays missing and hitting these folks.

    Look for the smirls of joy in the eyes of managment.

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    Funny thing about facts, anyone can make them up and say they know people on staff that can back them up. Not saying you are, but you have been on the boards for 2 days and are now throwing out things like how rude the staff are to people. I haven't seen it and haven't heard anything like this before. For now, I see no reason to believe you. If I hear things from some of the more trusted on the boards or see it myself, I will stop going there (fred meyer has better beer anyway), but until then, sorry not joining you.

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  5. miss julie

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    It's a grocery store engaging in the same practices as grocery stores all over the nation. I buy cold leftover deli food because I like my food cold. Some folks have negative attitudes towards vagrants.

    I guess I am just failing to see the conspiracy here?

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    I'm not really sure I'm following the thread. Are the QFC staff members throwing basketballs at the homeless who can't get a free hot prepared meal (i.e. luxury items) with their food stamps (i.e. our tax dollars)? Or are they throwing basketballs at your elderly friend who gets smirked at after 30 mins of attempting to find meaning in life at the grocery store chain coffee shop?
    Either way this thread is hilarious.

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    I'd be interested to hear more from others too. Because of the higher prices I don't go to QFC often enough to notice any of the other issues you brought up. I have used an EBT card there, though not at the deli, and they don't react any differently than any other store (aside from Grocery Outlet). 2 to 1 you're going to get a checker that won't look you in the eye when you pull out that EBT card.

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    Ugh. Double posting again.

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    Don't forget that a lot of no cook meals are provided by the food bank. The homeless heat them up at QFC. The new QFC is aiming at the yuppie crowd, and the homeless are taking advantage of the setup. As for prices, it comes down to choices for all of us. Safeway is only a short bus ride away if you don't have a car.

    Personally, I think QFC is overpriced and I avoid them as much as possible.

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  10. miss julie

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    Chances are your checker has an EBT card, too. Many of the cashiers I worked with back in Ohio were on some sort of assistance. It's not the highest paying job in the world and it's hard to get full time hours.

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    And the Ballard Market is not much worse at this ? I know alot of you are in love with those cute little aisles but they are much more expensive. My guess is because they have so many employees' standing around.

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    Funny how the same folks with the bumper stickers telling the entire world "against abortion? don't have 1 then" are now telling us to boycott QFC? He he he. Do NOT shop there. Typical liberal though, telling us all what to and not to do. They are not a government agency where they can print money or take from us citizens to make up losses. Do you then want QFC to lose $$ and go out of business? Now that's the "American way" eh? Too bad there aren't real issues to bother you though. Like $4/gas. A crumbling economy. 10% unemployment. A state that's 5-10 Billion in debt. And you want us to boycott QFC? Don't you have an anti-war protest to attend? As in something more urgent? How much stock in any company do you own?

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    I can't get over the thought of checkers throwing basketballs at people sitting on the patio at QFC. Made my day.

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  14. BuddyCianci

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    So the updated weekly boycott checklist is...

    1. Ballard's "crazies"
    2. QFC

    ...got it.

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    Well, after wading through the OP's borderline incomprehensible English, I can't agree with any of his statements.

    For one thing, items at QFC are not always more expensive than they are at other stores. This is obvious when you take some time to compare prices.

    As far as the employees going out of their way to make people feel unwelcome. That is one of the most idiotic statements I've ever heard. I know someone who has been working at that location since well before the old store was still in existence, and they and all the rest of the staff I've met and or seen interacting with others (including the homeless) have been nothing but polite and helpful.

    Also, you can't really bitch about them asking people to vacate chairs in that seating area after a certain amount of time. It's a private business, and the very fact that they have that seating area at all and allow the homeless to come in and use the microwave is more than any other business would do. Next you'll be saying that they should allow people to sleep there.

    If I were you I'd invest my time in an English writing class or three. But best of luck on your solo protest!

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    I'm happy to hear that the QFC is hassling the bums. I have not shopped there much in the past, but now that I know they are helping to make the neighborhood less welcoming for the creeps, I will certainly start shopping at QFC more now, and I will make a point of thanking them.

    I agree with ST - the OP could use some basic English help. Preferably in another city.

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  17. Mondoman

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    Thanks to plasticbags for your translation of the OP; couldn't really make heads or tails of it otherwise.

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    Not that I can make any sense out of this thread anyway, but I am offended by The Norwegian attacking liberals. What the hell does politics have to do with this post, Mr. Norwegian? Not everything in the world is so black-and-white no matter what O'Reilly or Beck tells you.

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    I chose to ignore that comment, that was a whole new can of worms...

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    This thread would be epic if there was a picture to go with this comment

    No to mention throwing basketballs at their displays missing and hitting these folks.

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    I was threatened with being 'shanked' in QFC one night. Seriously. The guy reached into his bag and stepped toward me quietly telling me he was going to shank me. So sorry OP but I would rather see more security measures taken toward the criminals using the microwave and other store resources. I was unknowingly blocking his access to the forks and napkins. So he felt justified in STABBING ME!!! I have tried to sit at tables to rest/relax a minute while these people are there and not treat them like leppers. They give me the stink eye and move aggressively to take up as much space as they can. Screw them and their prison habits. Don't create a place for them to congregate and loiter. Get them out of the store. I am sick of having to be on alert because the criminals that are flocking here are violent and aggressive. They are drawn from out of state by the deluxe services and charities. Ballard has become a destination for recently released prisoners from around the country by the 'grapevine'. Prisoners from the south are given bus tickets to seattle by their corrections admins. That is how the guy that executed 4 cops got to washington. I have had discussions with cops and parking enforcement that have contact with these people and the things I have been told are astounding and truly sad for the community. It is only getting worse. Add to this the young people embarking on a life of crime by committing armed robberies in the residential neighborhoods. So do I support the OP. HELL No.

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    And don't get me started on the library.

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    Have to agree with the red speedo-ed one on this one. I am usually a huge bleeding liberal heart about most things, but a grocery store is a business, designed to make a profit, nothing more. They have no obligation to be a homeless shelter annex.

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  24. SunriseSunset

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    Check the OP reigh's website/occupation. You won't believe it. I didn't.

    Basic problems, reigh, with your reading comprehension, spelling, grammar and sentence construction. At which hospital are you plying your occupation as "registered nurse?"

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    O.M.G.

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    I liked "smirls of joy" in the OP's follow-up message. I think I will start using that.

    Used in a sentence: The manager's eyes gleamed with a smirl of joy as the basketball bounced off the head of the transient threatening Motorrad.

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    Check OP's profile! How about that??

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    SS +20

    http://compass.sccd.ctc.edu/~jwalker/Professional.htm

    According to him he earned his degree from a collage. That seems to explain a lot.

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    A Jackson Pollack, I presume, ST?? ^.^

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  30. Streaker Troll

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    None other than No. 5 SS! :-)

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4a/No._5%2C_1948.jpg

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    Listen - you can disagree with this gentleman's opinion, but let's not berate him for his lack of spelling and grammar skills - as much as many of you would like to think that these two things make you a better person - they do not. This kid's got a good heart - he wants everyone to be treated equally and fairly - regardless of economic status. An admirable trait.

    I know many of us have opinions about the homeless, and down on their luck. And the bums. Believe me, I've got plenty of opinions about the bums at Ballard Commons and the library et al....get past the spelling and the grammar - and you get the gist of what this kid is saying - if you really want too. Let's not dog him because he's got a good heart. QFC IS expensive. If you think it's not...well...then I'm not sure where you're shopping that prices are even higher. QFC and Fred Meyer carry many of the same Kroger items and QFC is most ALWAYS quite a bit higher. Demographics, whatever, it simply cannot be argued that QFC is an expensive store.

    In any event, get over all your bad selves and your obvious perfection...I applaud the OP and his sentiment - even if I disagree somewhat.

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    I disagree that QFC is always higher priced. I shop at many different groceries stores because I am a freak about prices and endeavor to keep my grocery budget within $100 a week. Not easy when I have gluten free and organic items on the menu. So I will buy certain items at QFC, others at Grocery Outlet, and then hit Greenwood Market. I get that the perception of it being more expensive is there but the reality depends on what you are buying. Would I buy my shampoo at QFC? No. Gluten free cookies? Yes.

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    Is this a Cesar Slater thread? I think it has something to do with QFC. I'm not sure.

    I shop at QFC to avoid driving, have no problems with the employees, and stick to sale items to avoid costs.

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    Miss Julie +1

    Sunflower... Regardless of anything else in this thread, the grammar has nothing to do with one-upmanship and "obvious perfection." Someone who is a nurse or is in any other medical field where their actions have a direct impact on patients needs to be able to communicate effectively. From everything I've read, the OP certainly can't communicate effectively, and that makes him a potential danger to the health of anyone he does end up treating IMHO.

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    i can't stand that place based on on what its done to that stretch of 24th alone. the delivery trucks sitting in the center lane, extra cars doing extra dumb things, etc. booo qfc.

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  36. Dweezil

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    QFC has a loading dock. Why would they be in the turn lane? I have not noticed such things.

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    +1 for The Norwegian

    +1 for Sunflower 75 "as much as many of you would like to think that these two things make you a better person - they do not."

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    Streaker Troll....1. You have obviously not been to a hospital lately and 2. I work in the medical field and you should see some of the people they hire !! Don't assume that just because a nurse or any other medical professional can communicate well, that they aren't putting patients in danger !

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    Miss julie, I am an omnivore so am not sure but I have seen a lot of Vegan and gluten free stuff at trader Joes. TJ really helps me keep in budget.

    I have not been to QFC in 3 or 4 months - I used go to Arts, good prices great selections, when QFC took it over they kept it with lower price and the expanded selections - last time I went, most everything on my list was 20% to 150% higher than Greenwood market, Trader Joe, or Pike Place market. I will even travel up to Top Foods and the Shoreline Market (Greenwood Markets big sister)- I have always avoided the QFC in Ballard because years ago I was helping some blind friends shop and the prices were way high (40 ish years ago) hard to break old ideas sometimes.

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    Pinupgrl76...

    1. I have been to a hospital lately.

    2. I know a number of people who work in local hospitals in varying capacities and get told things that the general public would never believe. I'm well aware of how completely dysfunctional certain staff, departments, and upper level individuals can be and how patient care is not necessarily always put as a priority by all. Never said that just because you can communicate you aren't putting patients in danger, but it certainly doesn't help anything if you can't.

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    I like the new QFC for its bright and open front area, and for being nearby, and for their Starbucks taking Starbucks cards (not trying to start a coffee war here). A lot of things are more expensive than Safeway, but certain items are cheaper, and that's why it pays to read the circulars.

    I was disappointed that neither QFC nor Whole Foods carry the good-tasting Muir Glen Crushed Tomatoes with Basil; however, Safeway does, and at what seems to be about a 15-20% lower price than what I'd expect QFC to charge (based on the brands they do carry). I suppose shopping at various local stores is good for me as long as I ride there rather than driving there...

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    @ Rich Y

    Traders Joes is my favorite place to shop . It is great for when my 4 year old stays with me and I can always give her healthy options and not break the bank. I won't feed her meat since she gets enough at her mothers. The substitutions and food they have there are great

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    Sunflower +1

    Come on people. This isn't exactly on a par with cesar and his 'benifits of vegetables' is it? Apart from a bit of odd grammar, the OP made his case.

    And as far as I'm concerned, I don't give a rat's ass if his grammar is a little off, especially when it comes to his occupation. It's not like he's talking in Gujarati or god forbid for any of you, Welsh :-)

    As long as he knows what he's doing in the workplace it shouldn't be a problem. But obviously it is to more than a few.

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    Where do they keep the basketballs. Is there a huge stockpile somewhere?

    I like QFC for the most part. I don't go there all the time but I don't find them overly expensive and I can get some things in bulk that I can't get other places.

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    That's what I wondering about Teigyr. Maybe they each keep one stashed in the checkout area. I shall have to ask Kid #1 if this is some (until now) secret QFC initiation for new employees.

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    Maybe basketball skills are part of the hiring requirements. This has all the makings of a video game that people would protest :)

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    That would be 'bad' basketball skills because apparently they miss the displays and hit the homeless, or whoever is sitting in the out of bounds area.

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    So, ya wanna the OP to reade the chrat at the end of your hosptal bed. okay buy me.

    It has little to do with stuffy grammarians--it has to do with patient safety.

    Never mind.

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    Where in the original post is there any indication that the person can't read or understand certain things?

    I know plenty of people in the construction industry (English as a second language) who don't have a great command of spelling/rules of grammar, but when they read something like 'rafter angles to a hip roof', they know exactly what it means, and do their job accordingly, without mistakes, because that's what they know.

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    Oh I thought they meant to hit the homeless. This whole thread is confusing me beyond belief. So WHY were they throwing the basketballs at displays? I need a translator.

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    If this OP/registered nurse knows exactly how to do his job in the medical field and does his job accordingly, that will be a comforting thought to his patients.

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    Ask SS to be the translator :-)

    As far as I can make out, they aim for the displays and somehow manage to hit the people in the seating area. Hopefully they don't hit Motorrad's pal who threatened to shank him because he was blocking the route to the napkins. That could turn out quite badly.

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    I don't know if the OP is homeless. He purports to be a registered nurse who has been treated badly at QFC.

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    Why do you think may or may not be homeless SS? The OP is talking about other people at QFC, not himself.

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    Wait. I thought he had humbling experiences with the homeless and his grievances about QFC were more to do with the homeless and not him. The whole thing reads like a poorly written essay from a student who wanted to make it look nice but not put a whole lot of effort into it.

    Back to the basketballs though, why are they aiming for the displays? Displays of what? Cans? Seems like it would be messy to clean up so it's good that they miss :)

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  56. pennygirl

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    More to the point, what kind of crappy aim must you have to actually miss the lumbering displays that they put together?

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    And why would you put the displays up only to try to throw basketballs at them? I can't recall ever seeing a basketball in a QFC. They must keep them well hidden. Wow. This is like the secrets within Disneyland!!!

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    Welcome to Disneyland and enjoy your visit.

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    See, if they were clever, they would use bowling balls if hitting people is their actual target. Take 'em out at the ankles. That way there's no excess damage.

    (I know at some point someone is going to take this seriously and accuse me of advocating knocking the homeless down with bowling balls)

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    Bowling balls are awfully heavy though and basketballs are bouncy. I say the basketballs would do less damage :) Plus if any of the employees had decent nails, wouldn't a bowling ball chip nail polish?

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