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    Eat all the soy you want and enjoy but I have a hard with something that tastes like nothing and is really a marketing ploy by big agriculture.

    Learn the Truth About Soy. Just How Much Soy Do Asians Eat?
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    Just How Much Soy Did Asians Eat?

    In short, not that much, and contrary to what the industry may claim soy has never been a staple in Asia. A study of the history of soy use in Asia shows that the poor used it during times of extreme food shortage, and only then the soybeans were carefully prepared (e.g. by lengthy fermentation) to destroy the soy toxins. Yes, the Asians understood soy all right!

    Many vegetarians in the USA, and Europe and Australia would think nothing of consuming 8 ounces (about 220 grams) of tofu and a couple of glasses of soy milk per day, two or three times a week. But this is well in excess of what Asians typically consume; they generally use small portions of soy to complement their meal. It should also be noted that soy is not the main source of dietary protein and that a regime of calcium-set tofu and soymilk bears little resemblance to the soy consumed traditionally in Asia.

    Perhaps the best survey of what types/quantities of soy eaten in Asia comes from data from a validated, semi quantitative food frequency questionnaire that surveyed 1242 men and 3596 women who participated in an annual health check-up program in Takayama City, Japan. This survey identified that the soy products consumed were tofu (plain, fried, deep-fried, or dried), miso, fermented soybeans, soymilk, and boiled soybeans. The estimated amount of soy protein consumed from these sources was 8.00 ± 4.95 g/day for men and 6.88 ± 4.06 g/day for women (Nagata C, Takatsuka N, Kurisu Y, Shimizu H; J Nutr 1998, 128:209-13).

    According to KC Chang, editor of Food in Chinese Culture, the total caloric intake due to soy in the Chinese diet in the 1930’s was only 1.5%, compared with 65% for pork. For more information on the traditional use of soy products, contact the Price Pottenger Nutrition Foundation.

    The chief concern we have about the consumption of large amounts of soy is that there is a risk of mega-dosing on isoflavones. If soy consumers follow the advice of Protein Technologies International (manufacturers of isolated soy protein) and consume 100 grams of soy protein per day, their daily genistein intake could easily exceed 200 milligrams per day. This level of genistein intake should definitely be avoided. For comparison, it should be noted that Japanese males consume, on average, less than 10 milligrams of genistein per day (Fukutake M, Takahashi M, Ishida K, Kawamura H, Sugimura T, Wakabayashi K; Food Chem Toxicol 1996, 34:457-61).

    What about the traditional use of soy in infant feeding?

    Ever heard the industry line that ‘soy formulas must be safe because Asian infants have been eating soy for centuries’? Just another piece of false advertising, a little like the claims that ‘soy formulas are better than breast milk’ that many parents that have fed soy formulas testify to. And to set the record straight, soy was seldom used in infant feeding in Asia.

    Ernest Tso is credited with the development of the first soymilk diet that was able to sustain an infant for the first eight months of life. Writing in the Chinese Journal of Physiology in 1928, Tso noted that soybean milk is a native food used in certain parts of the country as a morning beverage but it is little used as part of the diet for children. Its nutritive properties as a food for young infants are practically unknown.

    Eight years later, Tso’s comments were still valid. Writing in the 1930’s, Dr RA Guy of the Department of Public Health of the Peiping Union Medical College found it ‘pertinent to note that we have never found soybean milk naturally used by Peiping women to feed their children. This beverage is not made in the home in Peiping, but is sold by street vendors, as a hot, very weak solution of soybean protein and is usually drunk by old people in place of tea. The milk, as reinforced for the feeding of young infants, is rather tedious and difficult to prepare. As dispensed recently by the various health stations, it is in demand, but is just as artificial in this community as cow’s milk’ (Guy RA. Chinese Med J. 1936; 50:434-442).

    In a later publication, Guy reported on the use of soybean milk as a food for infants. The whole purpose of this report was to comment on the possible use of soymilk to address the problem of feeding those infants without sufficient maternal milk in a country where cow’s milk was not native. He again noted that although a weak soy milk or ‘tofu chiang’ was ‘sold hot in Peking by street vendors and was taken by old people in place of tea’, that ‘contrary to Western notions’ it was not usual to feed soy milk to infants (Guy RA and Yeh KS. Chinese Med J. 1938; 54:1-30).

    It seems those same Western notions that made Asians out to be greater soy consumers than they were are still prevalent. Why is that? Asia is a huge market for the soy industry and the soy industry efforts to convince Asians that their ancestors ate much more soy than they actually did are purely profit driven. We view the attempts of the soy industry to re-write the history books with the contempt it deserves.


    briarrose
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    LOL salt and pepper tofu? I can’t think of a more americanized dish. GAG.

    in reply to: Good books you have read! #62364

    briarrose
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    There is a sequel for Time and Again, From Time to Time. Both are fun reads.

    in reply to: Do You Depend On the Bus? #62269

    briarrose
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    The issue with east/west has always been geographical and that is unlikely to change much.

    The #17 got very light ridership other than at peak commuting hours. #18 was busy nearly all day. I do however wish there was an earlier #17. I am forced onto the #40 which has faced so many detours this last year it is consistently late. When a line is so long, as if the #40 there are too many places where a bus can get bogged down.

    in reply to: Do You Depend On the Bus? #62263

    briarrose
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    I also didn’t forget to move to Everett or Olympia. If I worked in either area I would live there. I lose no sleep over how they get into the city. I have no interest in burbs or burbites.

    When I lived in the LA area in the 80s there were many systems run by municipalities or counties and they worked great. They overlapped and used the same stops but everybody paid for their own.

    Snow is really a non issue for me also. I do the same as I did 35 years ago when I lived in downtown Ballard. Get my ass to Ballard and Market as early as I can and catch the first bus that comes along to downtown. A storm mid day is harder. I do remember when Metro expanded into the burbs and that caused issues because so many buses were stuck in outlying areas they couldn’t get back to town and that caused issues with other routes needing those coaches. I have walked home from downtown and that is not fun. As old as I am now I could not do that and would likely just check onto the Fairmont. : )

    in reply to: Good books you have read! #62250

    briarrose
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    Anything by T.C. Boyle. Drop City is a good start but my fav is still Tortilla Curtain.

    in reply to: Do You Depend On the Bus? #62249

    briarrose
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    I have ridden buses in this city since I was about 12 and that was back when there were still tribes that had not yet discovered fire. The system worked the same for years and it worked fine. Same drivers for years same routes etc. A system that worked well was “fixed.” Fixed mostly due to whining riders.

    First off was the absurd idea that transportation service needs to pay for itself. Service is a service not a for profit business. Maybe police and fire service also needs to support itself huh?

    Second they foolishly got rid of the local and express system. An express bus used to cost more. Bring that back for those who are so important that they can’t take an extra 15 minutes to get to work or home. Have it cost double.

    Get the buses back on ALL streets downtown and off third avenue. Buses sit for as long as 10 minutes trying to get into a stop due to the congestion. All buses on third also makes the city very inaccessible to those who are elderly or infirm. We have hills here folks. I think the MBA type planners looked at a map and not at the city. There is also way too many blocks between stops.

    Dump the Rapid Ride joke. It added nothing whatsoever to the service. Stop spending money on the fancy stops and electronics. The reader boards are costly and are just pacifiers as are the apps on phones and such. Really people they don’t make the bus come any sooner nor do they keep them on time.

    I also think Seattle needs to run its own system that is NOT county wide. Let the burbs tun their own service. I did not forget to move to Bellevue.

    A quick look at the system in about 1969 would show us a system that worked and served the city for low cost.

    in reply to: $15/hr? #62110

    briarrose
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    Cate when did “very few” translate to “nobody?”

    in reply to: $15/hr? #62070

    briarrose
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    Got that right Midwest. I do get a charge out of the whining people here with their first world issues like how Safeway has nothing worth eating or the clerk at a retail store was not friendly to someone.

    great if they are dumb and don’t work why would you hire them to begin with regardless of age. Unless of course you just are greedy and want to save a buck. Somehow I don’t think it is your humanity showing.

    I stick with my statement that few here ever actually lived on Min wage.

    in reply to: $15/hr? #62052

    briarrose
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    Don’t forget FICA. You know that SS tax that you pay on your entire income while others only pay on part of theirs? $1200 or more if you buy a bus pass.

    What penny said earlier is likely true, that few of you ever really lived on min wage even if you made it at one time. I did.

    I didn’t have parents who could give me a dime of help toward college or expenses and due to health reasons they retired and moved to a tiny town with no jobs for me. I had no choice at all other than to take whatever job I could find and live in Seattle on min wage, at the time $2.30. As hard as that was it was still closer to a livable wage than what people are making today. (I lived in a 1 room basement apartment with a hot plate) Oh it was also during the bad recession of the 70s. It took years of looking to find anything better.

    This sort of thing is not at all usual even if you don’t know anyone in the same place. To be honest few of the other ballardites I attended school with had any clue what I did after high school. They were all very busy with college that their parents paid for and living in dorms or sororities or paid for apartments. Some had min wage jobs but that just paid for their fun. I was living on what they spent on skiing and beer. So many Americans, then and now, really have no idea that the rest of the world does not live the same as they do.

    in reply to: $15/hr? #61927

    briarrose
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    The most compelling argument is that a raise in min wage will save 4 billion in food stamps. I for one am a bit tired of subsidizing low wage employers by basically paying for their employees while they rake in billions. Of course I am also tired of paying for Boeing’s employees also.

    in reply to: $15/hr? #61909

    briarrose
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    BTW I have no idea where mondo got his stats for rent increases but the Times does not agree.

    http://seattletimes.com/html/businesstechnology/2021724598_seattlerentsxml.html

    Seattle liberals are very greedy.

    in reply to: $15/hr? #61905

    briarrose
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    That’s the point gam. All the fear mongering is just that. This is nothing new and has been dragged out everytime we raise the minimum wage. None of the bad stuff ever happens and it has never made anything worse. In fact last time it seems to have made things better in Seattle with an increase in jobs higher than in other states.

    I am not a wealthy person. I make almost exactly the median wage in this city. I am more than willing to pay 50 cents more for a burger or a few dollars more for a dinner so that other people can have better lives.

    This time it is even more important and will make a much bigger difference than in the past. Face reality folks this is a service economy and that is not going to change. Basically everyone is doing laundry for everyone else. In Seattle they are making lattes for everyone else. We have MBAs steaming milk. We don’t need anymore attorneys or software writers or engineers etc etc etc. Even civil service jobs like mine are drying up. Since the 80s the majority of jobs created have been service jobs. If we don’t pay more for the jobs we do have everything explodes.

    We are being asked to fund our own retirement but no one has anything to save. SS and Medicare WILL be cut. Low wage jobs pay no taxes so the situation just gets worse and worse and more and more cuts will come. It is not unlikely that conservative politics will have a few years in charge ahead so don’t expect to get anything from the wealthy. To be fair its best not to expect too much from the liberals either.

    I have been watching the outrage over the evictions at Lock Haven. No one is going to stop that folks. It’s called capitalism and this country embraces that. The problem is that capitalism fails if wages do not equal production. They have not for over 30 years. That’s why we have recession after recession and recoveries that leave more and more behind.

    The result will not be pretty. Why not fix this an easier way?

    Mondo staff is not the entire cost for small business. It’s only a small part thus no one will need to raise prices at the same rate as wages are increased. an increase in goods will not harm me as a median wage earner and not harm those who make wealthier than I am. Are you not willing to pay anything so others can eat?

    The $100 BS is just that. Why increase more than the median wage? $15 will not even equal the median wage so really it is hyperbole. “Might” have is just stupid. better to look at what has actually happened.

    in reply to: $15/hr? #61881

    briarrose
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    Small business support an increase. The real power against it is corporate chain types.

    http://www.smallbusinessmajority.org/small-business-research/minimum-wage/

    Small business knows their customer base. Corporations know they might make only 56 billion instead of 57 billion.

    I agree that a kid should be paid the same if he is doing the same job as someone over 18.

    in reply to: $15/hr? #61856

    briarrose
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    God grief plastic! People should live in poverty so others won’t feel bad?

    in reply to: $15/hr? #61841

    briarrose
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    Livable wage is a calculation using cost of living data. You should be able to find many calculators all ver the internet.

    Thing is gam that the same argument for lost jobs has been used every time the min wage has been raised and it has never once happened. In fact WA with its high min wage has added MORE low wage jobs than almost any other state since the wage was raised.
    If you REALLY think that the economy creates low wagers all you need to do is look at the state that have the lowest wages and compare their economy to ours.

    Our economy is suffering due to many factors and low wages in a major one. Compare this technology revolution the industrial revolution and you can see the issues and also the resolutions. Basically, unless we all benefit by innovation it causes more problems than it solves. If we do not address inequality we are facing another Golden age of Robber Barons and tenement dwellers. That in turn brought terrible hardship and social unrest. It caused starvation, dislocation, revolutions, a mass worldwide migration and numerous wars. Just for once can’t we TRY to do things in an easier more sensible manner?

    in reply to: $15/hr? #61837

    briarrose
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    $15 is the figure because it is a livable wage. That means what it would cost a single person to live in Seattle.

    Life you would work for $16 to $25 an hour with only 2 weeks off? geeeez

    If a business can’t afford a livable wage they should not be in business.

    Seattle rents have increased for years. Rent control is next of course.

    Funny how back when min wage was a livable wage, (1960s) we had a better economy.

    in reply to: spring #61717

    briarrose
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    Yes cd spring in the SW is iffy. Winds in Albuquerque can be brutal and we once had snow on April 1. Narcissus were fine of course but as soon as the sun came out my tulips looked like so much used Kleenex.

    in reply to: spring #61716

    briarrose
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    I painted my toenails in anticipation

    in reply to: Rules at Café Besalu? #61581

    briarrose
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    I tried Besalu once and was not impressed. Maybe just a bad morning but they apparently had their ovens too hot as the pasty was burned on the outside and gummy inside. People will love anything if they are told they should.

    in reply to: Crown Hill Safeway Deli, redux #61579

    briarrose
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    :) greatidea/Vladimir, (in my best Russian accent)they hate me.

    Poor allison has such a need to belong to something.

    Matthew anything is appropriate here.

    in reply to: Crown Hill Safeway Deli, redux #61543

    briarrose
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    Ohhhhh the poor whining neo ballardites with nowhere acceptable to buy their groceries. My heart goes out to them. I honestly don’t know why so many live in this terribly underprivileged area.

    in reply to: Rules at Café Besalu? #61210

    briarrose
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    LOL. The sniveling of overgrown children, (neo ballardites) never fails to amuse.

    in reply to: OTBR – Learning to code #59935

    briarrose
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    The more common a skill the less we have to pay for it.

    in reply to: Ballard Azteca closing #59647

    briarrose
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    Oh that’s too bad. Not ‘hip’ enough I guess. I saw that many yelp felt the service was bad and the place was dirty.

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