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• Teresa
  There is also a camera at 58th and 15th nw
• Ben
  Are they going have an introductory period like they did with the other cameras?
• Elltaes
  I am loathe to admit it but this is probably a good thing, this intersection has gotten very hairy over the last 13 months.
• Dusty
  The city would be drowning in money if they put one up at the Market/Leary/22nd intersection. It would only have to be aimed at westbound cars. There is always someone still in the intersection during rush or anytime on the weekend.
  This is a combination of bad design and bad drivers. Maybe if they re-timed some of the traffic lights it could improve, but until then, a redlight camera could fix the bad driver portion quickly.
• Suthii
  How about cameras in the alleys to catch those feces depositing bums that hang around there torching dumpsters? Or are they Old Timers who can't find a bathroom now that China Buffet and Denny's are closed?
• Lazlo
  I wish the government could make money off of arresting law-breaking bums and the junkies.
  
  Not saying that people should be able to run red lights but if there is a dollar to be made the ticket is going to follow and ignore the heroin kids in the alley.
• Joel Niemeyer
  People that run red lights ARE bums.
• cynicali
  This sucks. Taking a left on to Market from 15th is hard enough as it is given the people taking a left on to 15th from Market. The left turn arrow is generally far too short and without running the yellow (and now risking a ticket) only about 4 cars get through at rush hour.
• Suthii
  "People that run red lights ARE bums."
  
  Even if we're potty trained?
• Joel Niemeyer
  Cyn, are you saying that two wrongs make a right? That it's OK to right a red to make your turn of somebody just ahead of you has? I honestly don't think you are, but your reply kinda implies it.
  
  Of course, all the left turns at that intersection truly suck. Maybe those folks turning illegally on to 15th from Market will be less inclined to do now. What makes that whole turn even worse, though, is the idiots who start out in the left left turn lane who are on their way to Ballard Market and need to veer over to the right to do so, creating a backup in the other left turn lane. Hopefully not people that are responsible for the care of others.
  
  You don't get the idea I have strong feelings on the subject do ya? I guess I just have a thing for inconsiderate people.
  
  And yes Suthii, even the most hygenic red right runners are bums.
• mom
  consider it extra police presence. now i hope it's financially profitable. i guess the courts will decide that.
• rowbot
  They are probably an ok traffic device BUT several times recently I've had the green light and then the car in front of me suddenly stops just short of clearing the other side of the intersection and therefore I am sitting for a few seconds in the intersection and could be ticketed. That's the part that bugs me but maybe the cameras only take the photo once the light has actually turned red. Does anyone know?
  
  And that intersection on Stone Way and 40th is pretty bad because drivers only have one very short block to get into the middle lane if they want to continue straight down the hill. There's not enough warning on that for people who are not familiar with it it. Even if you are, you have to remember well ahead that the right lane suddenly turns into a right turn only lane at that intersection.
  
  And I still hate what they did to the lanes at the bottom of the hill at 24th and Market. It's just weird right before you get to the light and then people try to zip around you on the right side if you're going straight through where the road curves briskly to the left after the lights.
• Dalton
  Now that they are finally going after red-lighters, are they going to do something about 18 wheelers driving over the corner curbs when they make a right on Market from 15th?
• cynicali
  Joel, I think that my opinion of the whole left turn thing is colored by the fact that I lived in L.A. for 7 years. There is an unspoken rule there that once oncoming traffic stops, three cars are allowed to take a left (yeah, on red). It took me awhile to get the hang of it, but for whatever reason it really seemed to work.
  
  You're right about the tone of my previous post. I understand logically that two wrongs do not constitute a correct action, however I lament the fact that I live so near an intersection that will now be policed with an eye unmoved by the emotional ravages of traffic congestion.
  
  Oh, who the hell am I kidding?
  
  I got two red light tickets last year on Denny and really, I'm sick of the damn things.
• angrignon
  Perhaps the cameras will show how many homeless folks stumble across the intersection (when the DONT WALK light is on) oh and like I saw today, stop in the middle of the street to pick up a piece of paper.
• Joel Niemeyer
  Well cyn, I imagine there are lots of strange unspoken rules in L.A.!
• Lazlo
  It took me a long time to get used to the fact that at least three cars dont go through on yellow here in Seattle. Chicago would grind to a gridlocky halt.
  
  Each city is its own traffic animal I guess, I just wish people turning left would pull out a bit further when waiting to cross to get more cars through that left.
  
  Hey, whats the defintion of a millesecond? The time it takes between when the light goes green and the chicago cab behind you starts honking.
• cynicali
  Yes there are Joel, yes there are.
  
  Lazlo, I totally here ya, though I replace Chicago with NYC for the same joke.
• CK
  Running a left on Red is a great way to have a head on collision and or mow down a pedestrian. Take a chill, or petition the city to retime the intersection.
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• MSW
  I think the red light cameras will be the most hated traffic device in the city once enough people get nailed with the $124.00 ticket. Most of the tickets will likely be issued to people who unintentionally run the lights or are making turns when the light changes.
  
  This is a money making venture for the city. They wouldn't have installed these devises if they didn't think it would bring in more revenue. The speeding cameras will be next. More surveillance and more tickets = more revenue for the city.
• photrain
  i got a ticket for not coming to a complete stop at a red before taking a free right onto 15th from market. geez i'm sure it was ALMOST complete. i heard that they also add to the ticket if you're not wearing a seatbelt. i don't run red lights, but can understand why people do at that intersection, that green arrow southbound onto market from 15th? give me a break! if everyone in line isn't on it, you could sit through that thing twice, three times?
  jerks (i mean the cameras)
• Lesbiche
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• Dave
  Turn the darn thing off - the flashing light from the camera keeps me awake at night - up on Phinney Ridge
• Robin
  Has anyone noticed that these things flash sporadically whether someone is running a red light or not?
• fromIssaquah
  I just received a mailed ticket for not coming to a complete stop before taking a right on 15th & Market. The picture clearly shows cars on the left, and ahead are at complete stops, and there are no pedestrians in sight. I always come to a near stop, and look around. Sheesh, now I'm much less inclined to come out to Ballard. These types of infraction's should require more leniency in my opinion.
• another right turn victim
  Same situation as you, Issaquah. Took a right at that intersection 3/10ths of a second after the light had gone red, after slowing (if I hadn't slowed and just burned around the corner, wouldn't have gotten a ticket) but NOT coming to a complete stop. It was 11:30 at night on a weeknight, and the video from the incident shows that there are NO cars even lined up waiting at the light that won't change for 5 seconds after I am through the intersection. $ 124 please. Eeesh. When will people realize that this is nothing more than a money grab. It has nothing to do with safety, otherwise they would use discretion in handing out these tickets. Perhaps we should put these cameras at every stop sign, just to make sure people are coming to a FULL stop. Would everyone like that? What about hidden speed cameras that automatically ticket every person who goes 33 in a 30 zone? I mean technically, that's breaking the law, just like coming to a rolling stop on a free right is. That would show the bums, wouldn't it? It's only a matter of time before there is a camera everwhere and a fee for everything. See how safe you feel when that comes about.