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Board votes 6-3 to landmark Denny’s building

Posted by Geeky Swedes on February 20th, 2008

After over two hours of presentations, comments and debate in front of a standing-room only crowd, the Seattle Landmarks Preservation Board voted 6-3 to designate the exterior of the Ballard Denny’s a city landmark. “I’m very surprised,” said Alan Michelson, who spoke out in favor of saving the Denny’s. “I couldn’t tell which way they were going. It was tortuous.” Before the vote, many of the board members admitted they were “on the fence.” The building “has a hard time crossing the integrity threshold,” board member Ronald Martinson said. Christine Howard said she was “struggling with the integrity.” But board member Stephen Lee (on the right below) led the charge in favor of saving the building. “To me this building bookends Ballard and still has enough integrity,” he said, noting that he lives nearby.

After ten minutes of discussion — which followed a lengthy presentation by land owner Benaroya Companies as well as public comment — the board reluctantly took it to a vote. Martinson and Howard were among the six board members who ended up voting in favor.

John McCullough, the attorney hired by Benaroya and Rhapsody, made it clear after the vote that they’re weren’t done fighting. “The issue is not to build on the remaining property,” he told the surrounding media (photo below). “The issue is what the land owner paid for (it).”

McCullough said the next step is to show that the board’s decision “deprives the property owner of economic use of the site,” which goes to the Hearing Examiner and ultimately the Seattle City Council. When asked about an alternative plan suggested by Grace Architects that would incorporate the restaurant along with the same number of condos (below), McCullough said it’s “highly unlikely to obtain the 125-foot rezone” that the plan would require.

Meanwhile, a group of Denny’s supporters who gathered down the hallway after the vote proclaimed they were ready for the next stage of the fight. “There will be plenty of opportunity to rehabilitate the building effectively and make it an integral part of the community,” Michelson said, who’s the head of the architecture library at the UW. “With minimal effort,” he added.

The room was packed for the board session. Only a small handful of the public who addressed the board spoke out in opposition of landmarking the building. One of them was Ken Alhadeff, the owner of Majestic Bay Theatres. “If you choose to designate, you must be part of the solution,” he told the board. “And then what? What’s the next step? Who will restore it? What will it be?”

Our minute-by-minute coverage of the meeting follows below…

6:30pm - The final decision by the Landmarks Preservation Board means that the Mannings/Denny’s building cannot be torn down and replaced by condos.

6:25pm - The Mannings/Denny’s building has been designated a landmark. Approved, 6 to 3. Gasps and applause from the crowd.

6:20pm - This will be a close vote. The board members on the fence are listening to the others.

6:00pm - The first board member to speak after the public comment says he’s “on the fence.” The second, Ronald Martinson, said there’s a good case to be made on two of the landmarking criteria. But “it has a hard time crossing the integrity threshold.” The third, Marie Strong, also questions the integrity. The fourth board member to speak, Vernon Abelsen, said he will support the designation. The fifth, Mollie Tremaine, said “the building is in terrible shape” and doesn’t convey historic significance. Board member Czarina Nicholas says she attracted to the style it conveys, and says it is a strong icon to the community. But she said she’s “on the fence.” The seventh, Christine Howard, says it meets the distinctiveness criteria, but she’s “struggling with the integrity.” The eighth board member, Mark Hammon, says it is a prominent building, and could be very attractive if restored. But he said it has deteriorated too much for his vote. Now down to last board member to talk, Stephen Lee, who lives in Ballard, says he will vote in favor of landmarking.

5:55pm- The board discussion has begun. Vote coming soon…

5:45pm - The owner of Majestic Bay theater voiced his opposition to the designation. “If you choose to designate, you must be part of the solution. And then what? What’s the next step? Who will restore it?”. So far, he’s the only person from the public here to oppose the designation.

5:35pm - “This building is a fine example of Googie architecture,” said a archtectural historian, who presented two books on Googie architecture that highlight the Manning’s building. One man came forward with a proposed new design integrating the Denny’s building, but the board would not allow him to show it.

5:30pm - “The Mannings building has retained its character defining features,” said one supporter. “I ask the board to make history today.”

5:25pm - The board staff says it “does not recommend” landmark status. This is not the board’s official vote, which is coming up after a public comment period.

5:20pm - “You can’t really identify this building… as a style,” McColough said. “There’s just no unity,” added Sobol.

5:15pm - the board is now asking questions. One board member asked why the presentation focused so much on disassociating the building from Googie when the Polynesian influence may contribute to “period distinctiveness.”

5:10pm - “What you see if you designate is what you get,” Jack McColough said, urging the board not to “lower the bar” and “undermine” its credibility. He said a survey in Ballard revealed that more than 60 percent don’t want the Denny’s preserved.

5:05pm - Benaroya Companies are wrapping up their arguments

4:55pm
- Historian Judith Sobol, from Los Angeles, is giving a history lesson on Googie buildings, complete with plenty of Powerpoint photos. Sobol is deconstructing photos of the original Mannings building, pointing out differences from classic Googie architecure. “This is not a Googie building,” she said.

4:45pm - UC Berkeley’s Timothy Rood, brought in by Benaroya, is providing background on Bay Area architect Clarence Mayhew, who designed the original Manning’s building. Rood says he would be “very hard put to associate that building with him” given Mayhew’s previous designs.

4:35pm - Benaroya’s architectural historian said the building is a mixture of Googie, Scandinavian and Polynesian influence, or “Scandigooginesian.” Laughter from the crowd. The architectural historian is showing photos along 15th Ave to support his case that the building is not visibly prominent, despite being on a “key intersection.”
4:20pm - Benaroya’s chief architect on the project, Arthur Chang, is showing a new set of plans and photos showing the structural changes in 1984.

4:15pm - Benaroya Companies has six people presenting its case, ranging from architects to historians. Two experts were brought in from California.

4:05pm - The discussion on the Denny’s location is underway. The crowd now stretches out the door.

4:00pm - One more property to go before the Denny’s item, which should begin in 10 to 15 minutes.

3:50pm - Marc Nemirow with Benaroya Companies, which owns the property, was asked just before the meeting began how he’s doing. “We’ll see in a couple hours,” he said.

3:35pm - About 100 people have crammed themselves into a small meeting room here in downtown Seattle to hear the Landmarks Preservation Board rule on the Ballard Denny’s. The meeting has just begun, and the item on the agenda is scheduled for approximately 4pm.

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  • strike
    To whomever is providing the play by play, I want to thank you for your efforts. You did a great job and service for everyone that is interested in the outcome. I obviously care a great deal about Ballard's future, and appreciate the time you have taken to update us throughout the hearing.
  • Heather
    I agree!
    Thank you very much for the detailed information. Judging by all of the dialogs on this subject, whether we are in agreement or not, it's obvious that there are quite a few of us that care about the future of Ballard.

    Well done!
  • wow
    and this is the beginning of the end for the landmarks board.
  • AJB
    It's sad that Ballard has turned into a yuppie utopia. Who else moves into these poorly constructed condos? I'm glad the board made the right decision.
  • Sami
    I'm really surprised. I would rather not see condos go up there, but I don't agree that the building deserves landmark status. I'm sure the developer will be creative with it and build condos somehow.

    Of course Ballard should be proud that we probably have the only “Scandigooginesian” building in the world!
  • Silver
    At this point I'd happily support landmarking every building remaining in Ballard that isn't a big box condo or a "townhome."

    It's not about beauty so much as it's about diversity.
  • Hmmm...
    Well, as far as I understand, it looks like Ballard residents will really get to step up now. If everything goes through, and a private investor doesn't enter the picture, then the city has to purchase the land for fair market value at over 10 million. Not to mention any additional costs to restore the building. Since the city doesn't do things for free, you can look at higher property taxes I am sure....
  • I'm somewhat ambivalent because there's really so much more that needs to be hashed out.

    whether or not this is the right decision really depends on how they choosed to utilize the "designated landmark."

    there's enough condos so let's see something creative here. i have to admit that i'm cynical that when the rubber meets the road, all the backers and talkers of the landmark are going to fade. why?

    "“If you choose to designate, you must be part of the solution,” he told the board. “And then what? What’s the next step? Who will restore it? What will it be?”
  • Nolaguy
    This still needs to be approved by the City Council.

    they basically have to decide if the city is going to pay more than $10 million to support and finalize this decision.

    I don't think the supporters thought that their vote to support landmark designation means the taxpayer will be paying $10 mil for a denny's. I think the people of Seattle have better priorities.
  • Fran
    Nolaguy- where do you get your facts and figures supporting your assertion that it will cost 'taxpayers' $10mil. for a Denny's? In the first place, it's not about Denny's, it's about the building. In the second place, try to have a little imagination....it will not stay as a boarded up 'eyesore', no matter how much those opposing it's landmark status want to trumpet that fact. It will, eventually, be developed....
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    [2] Do you hate more than 3 people?
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    [9] Do you own a Britney Spears CD?
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    [23] Favorite color to wear?
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    [24] Pepsi or Sprite:?
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    [25] Ever been out of the country?
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    [26] Where is your second home?
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    [27] Have you ever slapped someone?
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    [28] How many states have you been in?
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    [32] Ever had braces?
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    [38] How many children do you want?
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    [41] Do you own a gun?
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    [42] Ever thought you were in love?
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    [44] What did you do 3 nights ago?
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    [45] Been to the Olive Garden?
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    [46] Have you ever called your teacher mom?
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    [47] Have you ever been in a castle?
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    [49] Do you know anyone named Bertha?
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    [50] Ever been to Kentucky?
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    [51] Do you own something from Banana Republic?
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    [52] Are you thinking about somebody right now?
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    [53] Ever call somebody Boo?
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    [54] How many people have you kissed?
    Something tells me this is another counting question.

    [55] Do you own a diamond ring?
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    [56] Are you happy with your life right now?
    Sure!

    [57] Do you like your hair?
    Yes!

    [58] Does anyone have a crush on you?
    There's a guy at work that looks like a bulldog, everyone KNOWS he has a crush on me. The bulldog thing freaks me out tho.

    [59] Any siblings?
    Yeah!

    [60] What were you doing in May of 1994?
    I don't remember at all.

    [61] Do you own a Backstreet Boys Cd?
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    [62] McDonald's or Wendy's?
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    [63] Do you like yourself?
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    [64] Are you closer to your mother or father?
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    [66] Are you afraid of the dark?
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    [67] Have you ever eaten paste?
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    [68] Do you own a webcam?
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    [70] Ever broke a bone?
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    [71] Are you religious?
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    [73] Pringles or Lays?
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    [74] Have you ever broken someone's heart?
    Maybe.

    [75] Full House or The Brady Bunch?
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    [76] Own an ipod, mp3 player, cd player?
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    [77] Do you like your high school guidance counselor?
    I remember his wife's name was Patty.

    [78] Has anyone ever called you a tease?
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    [79] Do you have a birth mark?
    I did.

    [80] Do you own a car?
    I do.

    [81] Can you cook?
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    [82] 3 things that annoy you:
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    [83] Do you text message often?
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    [84] Money or love?
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    [85] Do you have any scars?
    YES

    [86] What do you want more than anything?
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    [87] Do you enjoy scary movies?
    Yes.

    [88] Relationships or one night stands?
    I don't do one night stands.

    [89] Big Red or Juicy Fruit?:
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    [90] Do you enjoy greasy food?
    Yes.

    [91] Have you seen all the Rocky movies"?
    No.

    [92] Do you own a box of crayons?
    Yes.

    [93] Ever had sex in a public place?
    Yes.

    [94] Who was the last person that said "I love you" to you?
    Lennon.

    [96] Who was the last person that made you cry?
    I was told it was Benjamin, but I don't really remember.

    [97] When was the last time you laughed?
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    [98] Who was the last person that texted you?
    Benjamin.

    [99] Who was the last person that called you?
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    [100] When was your last kiss?
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