Our Redeemers: ‘More than deeply saddened’

Over the weekend, a Level III sex offender was removed from the SHARE homeless shelter at Calvary Lutheran church. Pastor Steve Grumm of Our Redeemer’s Lutheran Church, which oversees the Calvary property, told us today that he is “more than deeply saddened by this.”

“It’s not only a surprise, but an alarm,” he said. Grumm said he’s held several conversations since the weekend with SHARE about the organization’s screening process, which does not include sex offender background checks. “They seem open to additional accountability,” Grumm said, adding that the task force set up to monitor the shelter plans to meet with SHARE later this week. Neighborhood representatives of the task force are demanding that sex offender checks “be immediately implemented,” but a SHARE representative told us on Monday that the sex offender incident “doesn’t change anything.”

“We had something going,” Pastor Grumm says about how well the Calvary Lutheran shelter was running before this weekend. “Neighbors were even bringing residents food.” Grumm said he plans to meet with neighbors next week after he’s spoken more in-depth with SHARE.

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eric
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eric

sigh, ok i'll bite. just what sort of “additional accountability” are they up for, short of screening for dangerous sex offenders?

and make no mistake, level 3 sex offenders have done bad, bad things.

this entire conversation would be moot if dumb SHARE would simply screen for these offenders – but they know better, somehow, on who may or may not be dangerous?

also, pastor grumm can publicly wring his hands but maybe its time to actually listen to the neighborhood.

****disclaimer. i don't have kids and was originally open to this whole thing. now, uhhhh….

blite
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blite

How about Pastor Grumm telling them they must do sex offender checks if they want to remain on the church premises? If he made it a condition, they would have to be “open” to it if they wanted to remain. I can't believe that isn't the Pastor's immediate reaction. It is unfathomable to me that he would not want to protect the church neighbors & other residents of the shelter. What is he waiting for? A sexual assault? You could be assured the shelter would be shut down then.

kim
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kim

SHARE continues to hold no accountability in this situation and should be evicted. period. one time is one too many. don't get me started w/priests and shuffling around offenders…..

paulal
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paulal

Level III sex offenders have either raped children or raped women and and are considered by law enforcement a no-doubt to re-offend. Level III's are most likely to escalate to rape and then murder. How can any neighborhood allow this type of risk near its children? The fault lies with the judicial system that should not be letting these monsters back out on to the street. However, in the mean time, neighbors need to protect themselves. This type of monster gives the other members of SHARE a bad, and hopefully unwanted, stigma.

shanedillon
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shanedillon

At least MyBallard got a response.

I was the one that reported this to Steve Grumm last Friday and he promised to get back to me. I have sent several emails (all very polite and respectful) and have yet to get a reply.

eltrain
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eltrain

No. No. No. NO NO NO! Sorry, but I am not ashamed to say NOT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. The church is smack dab between two elementary schools. I understand that they feel their mission has a responsibility to care for people who are having trouble caring for themselves, but c'mon. You can't just decide you're going to plop a huge risk into the middle of a neighborhood without taking major precautions because of your chosen religious mission. I can't suddenly decide to house something on my property that poses a risk to my neighbors. Why is the church allowed to do so? Are they then liable if someone is hurt because of their negligence? If I was a member of this church, I would be very concerned about the liability and demand precautions be taken.

Cripes. Thanks, Calvary. Way to Love Thy Neighbor…

Ballard_Curmudgeon
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Ballard_Curmudgeon

This is simply too much. “more than deeply saddened”? Seriously? I certainly hope you guys are not falling for this. It is time for some serious thought about how we can pressure him legally or pr wise into immediately getting these people out. Perhaps we can make a concerted effort to get people to start leaving his church over this.

pieceofmind
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pieceofmind

I am saddened that Pastor Grumm has enough power to keep such an unaccountable organization within this neighborhood. I once felt safe with churches on all of the corners. Now I fear for the children at the parks, schools, women walking the streets, etc. and all of this has been brought to us by a church! A pastor! And all the neighborhood asked for was sex offender checks! This is beyond infuriating and I hope Grumm is ashamed for not listening or taking a stand.

eric
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eric

wasn't it said that SHARE would be out if there was “one” problem? please correct me if i'm wrong..

NoraBell
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NoraBell

The SHARE rep is wrong. This changes EVERYTHING. Now, because they have allowed this Level 3 sex offender and still refuse to do the neighbor requested checks, the whole shelter project is in danger of being forced out by angry neighbors.
Neighbors to the church have every right to be angry but it makes me sad to think those in the shelter who aren't sex offenders may be adversely effected by this.

Tired Dog
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Tired Dog

It is time for Our Redeemer's to demand that the shelter be run in a way that is safe for the neighborhood. That means telling SHARE that they must check for sex offenders in their screening process.

I am sure I am not the only one who is tired of hearing empty words from Pastor Steve.

Captain Bligh
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Captain Bligh

The church members need to INSIST that SHARE be EVICTED AT ONCE.
Perhaps some signs, one on each corner of the block, that say, CAUTION: SEX OFFENDER RESIDES AT CALVARY LUTHERAN. That will get get the message across to those attending Sunday.

THIS is why bums/homeless should never be allowed to infest neighborhoods.

SHARE is not concerned about the church or its members or the folks in the neighborhood or the transients they “help”. SHARE is concerned about keeping itself in business. If they actually implemented any of these background checks I doubt a quarter of the folks there would be there.

xaphaeod
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xaphaeod

The full quote:

Pastor Steve Grumm of Our Redeemer’s Lutheran Church, which oversees the Calvary property, told us today that he is “more than deeply saddened by this.” He went on, “But we're still fine with those whacky guys at SHARE bringing large numbers of unsupervised lowlifes and dumping them on the streets of Ballard, because, well, you know, no local kids have been raped yet. So, we see no problem. Local neighbors can go to hell, we plan to continue bringing these creeps here. Try and stop us, just try!”

Joe
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Joe

Since these evil turkeys invited the scum of the earth to visit our neihborhood my wife and children have been accosted by crazy people more than once within a few blocks of the “church”. We steer clear now. Ruined. Thanks redeemers.

GTS
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GTS

Here is what I don't understand.

In order to volunteer at the church run school in a capacity that has NO INVOLVEMENT OR INTERACTION WITH KIDS I had to give al my personal info for a State Patrol check (I volunteer inthe evening literally 2 hours after the last kid has left the building in a clerical type capacity – I never see a kid) So to live at the church the “guests” don't have to have any background check? I don't get it.

pukohe
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pukohe

Oh brother…

Even the sex offenders in Ballard…
http://www.icrimewatch.net/offenderdetails.php?…

have Facebook pages…
http://www.facebook.com/people/Jonathan-Schoppe

We should all be compassionate and considerate of our fellow man (err… weirdo).

But when you gullible-naive-liberal-Seattle-bleeding-hearts start molly coddling people with anti-social behavior (and their apologists at places like SHARE), then don't be so surprised when this crap happens.

Help a guy down on his luck? Sure. Feed someone who's having a rough patch? Sure.

But give food, clothing, shelter, park recreation, library Wi-Fi and a bus pass to a 12-time criminal, who raped a child? C'mon. Stop falling for the do-gooder party line. Virtually all of Seattle's “problem” stems from it too soft on vagrants and petty criminals.

If you keep feeding the pigeons, you're gonna' get crapped on.

kim
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kim

it's not the judicial system, it's the legislators that won't address the laws. until more men are raped, this law will not change.

VDog
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VDog

Insane registry laws and restrictions did not prevent the perverts, Philip Garridoan and his wife from doing what they did! The registry laws, and especially the residency / work place restrictions, have done far more harm than good. Forget about all the cases of vigilantism and suicide; forget about the fact that while these laws are proposed to protect the children, they include children, while a huge percentage of those on the list committed crimes that had nothing to do with children; forget about the fact that study after study has proven these laws not only are ineffective, but have actually made matters worse. Forget about the fact that upon release from custody, registered sex offenders have one of the lowest recidivism rates, not the highest. In fact those who receive counseling and treatment have outstanding records versus those convicted of other violent crimes! The fact is the registry and any restrictions should be limited to those who are proven child molesters and pedophiles; that Law Enforcement could handle and monitor effectively. Do you seriously believe a committed pedophile cannot walk or drive 500, 1000, 2500, 5000 feet or more? Jaycee Lee Dugard was abducted miles from where Philip Garrido… Read more »

eric
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eric

listen , level 3 sex offenders have done bad stuff. there is NO DEBATE there.

JK
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JK

Who exactly do you mean by “you gullible-naive…” — to my count absolutely no one on this thread has advocated for SHARE or the “molly coddling” of sex offenders.

But don't let me stand in the way of your apparently needed buff-up of your superiority complex.

shanedillon
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shanedillon

There is a big difference between Level 3, Level 2, and Level 1. If you put them all together, yes the re-offending numbers are low, but Level 3 offenders are listed as likely to offend.

Teddie
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Teddie

“Forget about the fact that upon release from custody, registered sex offenders have one of the lowest recidivism rates, not the highest. “

Wow, you just managed to contradict your whole argument against registering sex offenders.

Rapists and pedophiles salute your efforts though.

VDog
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VDog

And over 800 Level 3 Sex Offenders have been released from prison, or had their convictions overturned through DNA evidence. In fact, even several hundred convicted murders have had their conviction overturned by DNA, (SOME AFTER THEIR EXECUTION!)

In many states, like Georgia, a conviction involving a minor is automatically classified as level 3, including the 17 yr. old convicted of having sex (oral, manual, or traditional), receiving texed photos of his 16 yr. old girl friend, and they register for LIFE!

eric
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eric

well, maybe you should invite as many as possible into your home and help out these poor fellas?

VDog
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VDog

Funny you should suggest; FACT 95+% of all sex offenses and child molestation incidents are committed by immediate family, relatives, close friends, and trusted acquaintances. Less than 5% by strangers, and less than 1/2 of 1% by convicted sex offenders. Please do the research, there are dozens of sites, reports and studies. Hysterical knee jerk reactions are not the answer!