Developer to show off Sunset Bowl replacement

It’s been nearly one year since Sunset Bowl closed (April 13, 2008), but the 25,000 square foot building still stands on the corner of 14th and Market. Last October we got to see the development that could replace the old bowling alley.

Later this month the developer will be back in front of the Design Review Board with some changes. (Note: the image above is from the previous design review meeting. This is not necessarily the current plan.) The original project description was for a “six-story mixed-use building including 234 apartments above 15,000 square feet of retail. Parking for 294 cars below grade.” The new proposal has 13,000 square feet of retail space at ground level with 233 residential units above. There will be parking on two levels below-grade for 277 vehicles. The Design Review Board will be meeting on Monday, April 27th at 6:30 p.m. in the Ballard High School library. The meeting is open to the public.

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Mahtli69
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Mahtli69

Yuck

Boardbrown
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Boardbrown

Copy. Paste. Done.

Sara
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Sara

Yuck and boring.

chopper_74
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chopper_74

wow, how do you say…damn…
*beats head against wall, repeatedly*
How about an amusement park on the roof?

silence.kit
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silence.kit

Ballard is getting boring.

Gene
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Gene

Didn't I see this unimaginative development “shown off” in Bellevue? Or was it South Lake Union? Yawn and yuck, indeed.

shabadoo
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shabadoo

Needs a bowling alley on the roof.

nefos
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nefos

Sexy. Needs razor wire and graffiti; could be popped.

jules
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jules

no thanks

great idea
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great idea

what was the original feedback from the design review board, other than 'make it smaller'?

this building should be set to the same standard as the Denny's turret building across the street. it's a pretty prominent corner and to see anything remotely looking like that rendering above would be abominable.

Matt
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Its great to see more housing options on the way, but I agree with the other readers that they could put a little more thought into what they are building and how it will mesh with the surrounding community. I think it is quite telling that their mock-up shows the building with just a white background. Community? What community?

ABtm
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ABtm

Maybe the sales offices for Canal Station, Trio, NoMa, Hjarta, Danielle, Leva, Ballard on the Park, Alexan, Broadstone, etc., etc. can all move into that 13,000 square feet of retail space. One-stop shopping, save gas and shoe leather.

And with all the retail space available in Ballard, maybe we'll finally get a second Starbucks on Market Street. 'Cuz you can never have too many corporate coffee outlets, y'know?

Yes, the future is bright indeed for Ballard!

Disclaimer: yes, I know density is good for the community, Starbucks is a great and benificent company, people need to live somewhere, and so on and so forth. But this building is just more of what we already have in abundance, mediocre mixed-use crapola that squeezes the life out of streets. Would it have been so inconceivable to let the Sunset Bowl survive?

mamaC
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mamaC

wow.
are people really going to live in all these places?
There is a law of diminishing returns around here somewhere…

Sweet Rose
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Sweet Rose

AB if you wanted Sunset Bowl to survive you could have purchased it from the land and business owner. Business is business.

Captain Ballard
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Captain Ballard

I hope it's a mixed use building with retail on the bottom and condos on the top!!
Ballards' soul sold to the highest bidder. Sad really.

ABtm
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ABtm

I forgot. I can't care about anything I don't own. Oops, sorry.

Here, let me take a sip of Kool-Aid. Ah. Nice. Look at that lovely design! Do you think there'll be a Gap store? Yes, I feel much better now.

Born right the first time
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Born right the first time

YUCK! it's ugly and looks like most other condos I've seen….

jim
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jim

poor ballard. i wanted to eventually buy a house there, but no longer. it will be completely bereft of character in 20 yrs. all they need now is a mall

Sweet Rose
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Sweet Rose

AB I’m not trying to be snarky by stating the obvious. Of course you can care. I simply answered your question. It was perfectly conceivable that the lot continue as a bowling alley but it was not conceivable if no one wanted to use the lot and building for that purpose. It’s not as if the owners were forced to close or use of the space as a bowling alley was outlawed.

I was sorry to see it go also but I also knew that I had not been bowling in at least 35 years because I loathe bowling. The parking lot has been pretty empty for years so I assume others feel the same.

I am curious as to how the life is squeezed out of streets by high density? I would think more people would add life to our streets. Mixed use was always the norm for cities; well it was until the 50s and 60s and since. Was there no life in cities before the modern era?

Ballard girl
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Ballard girl

Please, I imagine that there are talented architects around? Can no one come up with a more imaginative design that this box? I was so saddened to see the bowling alley sold, but an attractive design should not be out of the question here..

Jay
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Jay

Why is there no standard for building in Ballard?!?!?

How can we stop this garbage from being built, or any of the crap they build here? Ballard used to be so amazing with it's old world charm, now it looks like Bellevue or any stripmall USA town!

Get rid of our city leaders who allow this to happen. Save Ballard, save Seattle!

Boardbrown
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Boardbrown

There are plenty talented architects around. But sadly the big developers don't go to the talented guys. They go to the cheap guys who can crank out a drawing set for 234 units in two weeks. It's frustrating every time I see one of these renderings and think to myself, how do these guys get these juicy jobs? Maybe the answer is that they aren't really juicy after all.

Like I said earlier…copy, paste, done. Then vomit.

f_vballard
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f_vballard

To be fair, everything around the old bowling alley is equally plain and ugly- this fits in. I am with everyone that questions the creative talent of the architects, however. This looks like something anyone with a ruler and 4 crayons can come up with. For the retail space on the first floor, I see a Teriyaki place, a Payday loan business, a Tanning salon, a Coffee shop and one artsy business that will fail within a year of opening. This is as bad as Carlos Silva.

zak
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zak

The reason these things look like crap is because of all the fussy zoning zealots and community-planning busy-bodies in Seattle. When you cap every building at 6-stories, you force the floorplates out to the curb — to create enough leasable space to make the projects economically attractive. Then you come back & complain that there isn't enough pedestrian space and a lack of uniqueness and charm… Well, guess what – We're competing with every other city for these development dollars. We can either get better at working WITH developers to reward good design (with variable heights, in exchange for architectural distinction — or get used to looking at ugly f'n boxes everywhere. Please remember that every single time the “community” (the dozen or so freaks that argue vehemently against everything, like Jeannie Hale at Laurelhurst Community Club), demands a plan re-design, the more money it costs the developer. Now: How do you think they recover those costs. They cut corners on design and material quality, or push the floors out to the curb. It's your choice boys and girls. These hyperactive community whiners and process-crazed city officials aren't making this a hospitable place to develop, so developers are simply going… Read more »

f_vballard
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f_vballard

There must be someone somewhere that can make a 6 story building look better than this. Haussmann was able to make Paris attractive with 5 story apartment buildings… Ballard doesn't need skyscrapers. If developers can't come up with projects that are economically attractive in Ballard while following our zoning laws, then they shouldn't buy the property.

Zak- community involvement is an important part of our society. The people that show up there are going to be the ones with strong opinions. Maybe developers could look into designing something that people LIKE, then you wont get the “whiners” showing up at these meetings. Don't blame zoning laws, city officials, and citizens for a bad design-we aren't holding the pencil.

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