Two meetings scheduled for proposed development

Tonight is the second Design Review meeting for the proposed development at 6559 15th Ave NW. A SEPA (State Environmental Policy Act) Environmental Determination meeting is scheduled for January 11th.

Currently there is a large, mostly empty lot, but developers hope to build a 4-story building on the property.

The proposal calls for five live/work units and 101 residential units on the upper floors. The plans indicate that parking for 67 vehicles will be provided in a parking garage within the building.

The Design Review meeting is tonight, January 3rd at 6:30 p.m. at the Ballard High School library. You can view tonight’s presentation slides here (.pdf.) The SEPA meeting is January 11th at the same time and location as tonight’s meeting. Both meetings will be open for public comment.

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Monstersgizmo
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Monstersgizmo

Oh joy. Another row of storefronts that will remain empty with several boring unadorned stories on top. Something new for Ballard.

great idea
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great idea

where’s all the complainers that find it inconceivable that 101 residential units and 5 live/work units can only have 67 parking spaces?

where will the average ballardite park their 2.3 cars???

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I’m again having a hard time with no setback from a busy street. It’s not fun to have an apt with 60 decible traffic outside the window. Flip the plan.

great idea
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great idea

seriously?

that would not help the streetscape one bit. why not just put a big parking lot in front of it then?

what you need are BETTER WINDOWS.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Dig the lot a deeper and put plus .25 landscaping on the 15th Ave Side. Maybe the entrance lobby and 1 live-work unit or commercial unit, which I noticed was not included in the plan. Perhaps they intend the live-work units to be commercial.

Snoop
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Snoop

It’s almost like some folks around here hope the recession won’t end cuz they’ll have nothing to p*ss and moan about.

great idea
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great idea

good landscaping would help alleviate things.

funny, it looks so lush in the ‘before’ photo.

angeline
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angeline

Why does it have to be right up against the street? Seems like a small courtyard-like setback would be nice and not detract from the business spaces at all. I am thinking of something like that building north of Greenlake that contains World Wrapps, Zeeks, Ben and Jerry’s, etc.

guest
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guest

If you don’t put enough parking spaces people aren’t “magically” going to sell their cars to take the bus.

Especially since there’s only the 15/18 in front of that building, no easy I-5 access and we’re also getting the shaft for exits when they tear down the viaduct and replace it with a tunnel.

Oh wait isn’t there supposed to be a monorail here?

Oh wait isn’t there supposed to be rapid ride here?

Oh what do you mean we don’t have any money for public transit? Perhaps you could at least scrape together enough money for another level of parking then.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

“101 residential units ..parking for 67 vehicles”

This is more insanity. The average condo has something like 1.6 cars per unit, plus whatever parking goes for the businesses.

Developers are gleefully running to the bank by making the public streets take the overflow.

Anti-car nuts are also happy — they like th low parking-to-condo rate because they think if traffic gets bad enough, grandma will start biking to sunday school in the rain, sleet or snow

WildernessBarbie
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WildernessBarbie

The parking issue is a big concern. 67 spots, with many of them being “compact” ones, is not nearly enough. They are getting special reductions on the number required because of the proximity to bus lines and other loopholes. Another concern is that the entrance to parking is off of 67th, forcing traffic onto a side street and most likely increasing traffic in an otherwise quiet residential area that is full of kids twice a day going to and from school (Ballard High and Salmon Bay Elementary). The “live/work” units would most likely be more work than live. There is no closet or laundry facility in them like there are for the rest of the units. The real concern I’d have if I lived behind this project is that they are asking for a setback variance so that they can have a four story building as close as (I believe) 11 feet from the back property line. That is definitely not something I’d want looming in my backyard. To be fair, many of the units are very small, even studios, so much less likely to have a couple of drivers living in them. Also, there did seem to be a… Read more »

Zipper
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Zipper

My home-owning neighbor has five cars and zero driveway. I’m less concerned about apartment dwellers living in high density housing and parking on side streets than I am about single family home owners who hose their neighbors with their car farms.

nirak
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nirak

I’m working during the public comments. Where can I log my comments to the city? I agree with these writers’ concerns about inadequate setbacks and inadequate parking. The #15 is the only bus for these people, so that only helps if they want to go to Seattle Center or Downtown.

WildernessBarbie
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WildernessBarbie

Disregard the comment about benches and kids hanging out, I might have been thinking of another design plan I saw. Looks to be OK, but nothing special.

Yep
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Yep

The setback “variance” (also known as a departure) was not granted by the design review board, and the project as revised complies with the setback.

A lot of misinformation out there in the neighborhood about this project. It will be a good addition to the neighborhood, obviously much better than the crack houses that currently stand there.

Also, in terms of traffic into the neighborhood, what about the Jiffy Lube right across the street? That generates much greater traffic than will a small-ish apartment building.

Corbeau
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Corbeau

Even if they had 300 parking spots you still have a problem because all those cars get driven on our already crowded roads. Traffic is slow enough as it is, things like this just make it worse.

WildernessBarbie
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WildernessBarbie

Good to know about the setback, though if it was my house this was backing up to I don’t know that I’d suddenly be happy with an extra few feet of space.

I agree that overall it will be a positive addition to the area, I don’t have a problem with it as a whole. As someone who lives in the area, the skimping on the parking is my biggest concern. 67 (variance for extra compact ones) spots for a 101 residential+commercial building will absolutely force more cars into the neighborhood behind it. I’m worried about it setting a precedence for future projects to have even less parking.

I haven’t paid attention, but I doubt that 67+ cars come and go from the Jiffy Lube in an entire day, and especially not mostly in the mornings/evenings as people are going to/returning from work and kids are walking to/from school. Also, this will not be replacing what ever traffic the Jiffy Lube generates, only adding to it so I don’t really see why that’s even relevant.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

They can piss and moan about parking. Unless they put in 88 underground parking spaces. Then they’ll just piddle and whimper about parking.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I agree, I believe the magic number for this sort of thing is 88. Unless you’re talking about problems, then it’s 99.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

What “things” will be alleviated by landscaping? Weeds?

Anonymous
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Anonymous

They need to elevate it above the traffic noise. Build it 88 stories tall, but put in nothing until the 84th floor, like the Space Needle.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

If you set it back they won’t come. Customers that is. You need to be at the street to be visible to the cars driving by.
Setbacks are for mini malls where everything is set back from the street. In cities you need to be on the street and welcoming if you want to have successful retail. and 88 underground parking spaces. You definitely need 88 underground parking spaces.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Another level of parking would mean that they could have 88 underground parking spaces, but more and better transit would be more better.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

We’d best stop making babies then. They might grow up and start driving before we can put 88 parking spaces under every building.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

4 bays x 15 minute oil change = 16 cars/hour x 10 hours = 160 cars/day + employees. Just sayin’.